Packet/Data Rate - Extracting Derivatives

I see that Packetbeat records cumulative values for its interim Flow captures. What is the best way to extract the derivatives for this? A Beat processor, or sending to Logstash or something clever on Kibana (note we do not yet have Timelion on our Kibana)?

I set up a flow, filtered on TCP port 7222 to capture Tibco EMS traffic but, looking at the "start_time" and the "last_time", each flow seems to span a long period of time (one spanned half a day), I understand that Tibco EMS tries to keep a continuous connection going to send its data over. Therefore only looking at FINAL flow stats is not practical here.

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  "_id": "AWGzrzrlEVEpPOEFhA9H",
  "_score": null,
  "_source": {
    "@timestamp": "2018-02-20T14:47:40.019Z",
    "last_time": "2018-02-20T14:47:38.912Z",
    "type": "flow",
    "source": {
      "mac": "xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx",
      "ip": "xxxxxxxxxxxxx",
      "port": 7222,
      "stats": {
        "net_packets_total": 5099,
        "net_bytes_total": 1602913
    "dest": {
      "ip": "xxxxxxxx",
      "port": xxxx,
      "stats": {
        "net_packets_total": 5168,
        "net_bytes_total": 352122
      "mac": "xxxxxxxxxxxxx"
    "start_time": "2018-02-20T13:13:48.994Z",
    "beat": {
      "name": "Tibco-Packetbeat",
      "hostname": "xxxxxxxxxxxx",
      "version": "6.2.0"
    "flow_id": "EQQA////DP//////FP8BAAEAUFatAPMAUFatAXEKOoAqCjqAml3H1Uk",
    "final": false,
    "transport": "tcp"
  "fields": {
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Hello @londonx,

First, I would not use a beats processors or Logstash to compute that derivative, I would keep the ever increasing counter and I would use the Time series builder
to create the derivatives.

Hi, thanks unfortunately and frustratingly we are still stuck on Kibana 4.6/Elastic 2.4! So the those features are not possible at least in the short to medium term.

Any other options for me?

@londonx Oh.. IIRC I don't think Kibana 4.6 has an easy option for displaying derivatives, I guess you run a script to calculate that and display it.

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