Completion suggest question

wrongmind · August 21, 2013, 10:16am

Hello Everyone,

I'm new to elasticsearch and I'm doing some experiments with the completion
suggest feature.
I was wondering if using a string array as 'input' parameter when indexing,
as in the example on the guide

"input": [ "Nevermind", "Nirvana" ]

is there anyway to use multiple prefixes in the suggest query? Something
like:

{
"song-suggest" : {
"text" : "nev nir",
"completion" : {
"field" : "suggest"
}
}
}

Or is there any mapping for the completion type that would allow a similar
suggest query?

Thanks for any help

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simonw_2 · August 21, 2013, 12:28pm

so you want us to expand all the term in you query? I think you should send
multiple prefix requests instead one with "nir" one with "nev".
I really can't entirely figure out when you would have a need for something
like this to be honest. can you provide a usecase that migh tmake it easier
to help you.

simon

On Wednesday, August 21, 2013 12:16:23 PM UTC+2, wron...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello Everyone,

I'm new to elasticsearch and I'm doing some experiments with the
completion suggest feature.
I was wondering if using a string array as 'input' parameter when
indexing, as in the example on the guide

"input": [ "Nevermind", "Nirvana" ]

is there anyway to use multiple prefixes in the suggest query? Something
like:

{
"song-suggest" : {
"text" : "nev nir",
"completion" : {
"field" : "suggest"
}
}
}

Or is there any mapping for the completion type that would allow a similar
suggest query?

Thanks for any help

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wrongmind · August 22, 2013, 4:04pm

By multiple prefix request do you mean something like

{
"song-suggest" : {
"text" : "nev",
"completion" : {
"field" : "suggest"
}
}
"song-suggest2" : {
"text" : "nir",
"completion" : {
"field" : "suggest"
}
}
}

Is there a way to use an AND operator on the results of the two requests?

The use case would be searching for more than one prefix at a time,
possibly "out of order"
Given an input like the following one, a possible query would be on "smell
spir".

"input": [ "smell", "like", "teen", spirit"]

But it's probably not what the completion suggest was meant for.

Thanks

On Wednesday, 21 August 2013 13:28:22 UTC+1, simonw wrote:

so you want us to expand all the term in you query? I think you should
send multiple prefix requests instead one with "nir" one with "nev".
I really can't entirely figure out when you would have a need for
something like this to be honest. can you provide a usecase that migh tmake
it easier to help you.

simon

On Wednesday, August 21, 2013 12:16:23 PM UTC+2, wron...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello Everyone,

I'm new to elasticsearch and I'm doing some experiments with the
completion suggest feature.
I was wondering if using a string array as 'input' parameter when
indexing, as in the example on the guide

"input": [ "Nevermind", "Nirvana" ]

is there anyway to use multiple prefixes in the suggest query? Something
like:

{
"song-suggest" : {
"text" : "nev nir",
"completion" : {
"field" : "suggest"
}
}
}

Or is there any mapping for the completion type that would allow a
similar suggest query?

Thanks for any help

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simonw_2 · August 22, 2013, 6:53pm

On Thursday, August 22, 2013 6:04:30 PM UTC+2, wron...@gmail.com wrote:

By multiple prefix request do you mean something like

yes!

{
"song-suggest" : {
"text" : "nev",
"completion" : {
"field" : "suggest"
}
}
"song-suggest2" : {
"text" : "nir",
"completion" : {
"field" : "suggest"
}
}
}

Is there a way to use an AND operator on the results of the two requests?

The use case would be searching for more than one prefix at a time,
possibly "out of order"
Given an input like the following one, a possible query would be on "smell
spir".

"input": [ "smell", "like", "teen", spirit"]

But it's probably not what the completion suggest was meant for.

I don't if I understand the usecase here. what would you expecte as the
output here?

Thanks

On Wednesday, 21 August 2013 13:28:22 UTC+1, simonw wrote:

so you want us to expand all the term in you query? I think you should
send multiple prefix requests instead one with "nir" one with "nev".
I really can't entirely figure out when you would have a need for
something like this to be honest. can you provide a usecase that migh tmake
it easier to help you.

simon

On Wednesday, August 21, 2013 12:16:23 PM UTC+2, wron...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello Everyone,

I'm new to elasticsearch and I'm doing some experiments with the
completion suggest feature.
I was wondering if using a string array as 'input' parameter when
indexing, as in the example on the guide

"input": [ "Nevermind", "Nirvana" ]

is there anyway to use multiple prefixes in the suggest query? Something
like:

{
"song-suggest" : {
"text" : "nev nir",
"completion" : {
"field" : "suggest"
}
}
}

Or is there any mapping for the completion type that would allow a
similar suggest query?

Thanks for any help

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wrongmind · August 22, 2013, 8:31pm

2013/8/22 simonw simon.willnauer@elasticsearch.com

On Thursday, August 22, 2013 6:04:30 PM UTC+2, wron...@gmail.com wrote:

By multiple prefix request do you mean something like

yes!

Is it possible to combine them with an AND?

The use case would be searching for more than one prefix at a time,
possibly "out of order"
Given an input like the following one, a possible query would be on "smell
spir".

"input": [ "smell", "like", "teen", spirit"]

But it's probably not what the completion suggest was meant for.

I don't if I understand the usecase here. what would you expecte as the
output here?

Let's say I have two documents, the first one

"input": [ "smells", "like", "teen", "spirit"]

"output": "Smells like teen spirit"

and the second one

"input": [ "smells", "like", "children"]
"output": "Smells like children"

I'd like to search with more than one prefix at once. Searching for "smel"
and "spir" together should return "Smells like teen spirit"

It the title is a string field indexed with a standard analyzer it is
possible to use a prefix filter for each of the search terms and combine
them with an and filter.
Is there a way to obtain a similar thing with the completion suggest?

Thanks

On Wednesday, 21 August 2013 13:28:22 UTC+1, simonw wrote:

so you want us to expand all the term in you query? I think you should
send multiple prefix requests instead one with "nir" one with "nev".
I really can't entirely figure out when you would have a need for
something like this to be honest. can you provide a usecase that migh tmake
it easier to help you.

simon

On Wednesday, August 21, 2013 12:16:23 PM UTC+2, wron...@gmail.comwrote:

Hello Everyone,

I'm new to elasticsearch and I'm doing some experiments with the
completion suggest feature.
I was wondering if using a string array as 'input' parameter when
indexing, as in the example on the guide

"input": [ "Nevermind", "Nirvana" ]

is there anyway to use multiple prefixes in the suggest query?
Something like:

{
"song-suggest" : {
"text" : "nev nir",
"completion" : {
"field" : "suggest"
}
}
}

Or is there any mapping for the completion type that would allow a
similar suggest query?

Thanks for any help

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simonw_2 · August 23, 2013, 6:22am

hey,

On Thursday, August 22, 2013 10:31:55 PM UTC+2, wron...@gmail.com wrote:

2013/8/22 simonw <simon.w...@elasticsearch.com <javascript:>>

On Thursday, August 22, 2013 6:04:30 PM UTC+2, wron...@gmail.com wrote:

By multiple prefix request do you mean something like

yes!

Is it possible to combine them with an AND?

not in the suggester sorry.

The use case would be searching for more than one prefix at a time,
possibly "out of order"
Given an input like the following one, a possible query would be on "smell
spir".

"input": [ "smell", "like", "teen", spirit"]

I don't get why you have this input I'd expect it is

"input" : ["smells like teen spirit"]

no?

But it's probably not what the completion suggest was meant for.

I don't if I understand the usecase here. what would you expecte as the
output here?

Let's say I have two documents, the first one

"input": [ "smells", "like", "teen", "spirit"]

"output": "Smells like teen spirit"

and the second one

"input": [ "smells", "like", "children"]

"output": "Smells like children"

I'd like to search with more than one prefix at once. Searching for
"smel" and "spir" together should return "Smells like teen spirit"

see, this is what I want to understand... what is the usecase that you need
to do that? who would type two prefixes?
I don't want to say that this is wrong I just wanna understand it to give
you better advice... I'd expect that you get one prefix that could be
somewhere in the phrase but that is a different problem with different
solutions.

simon

It the title is a string field indexed with a standard analyzer it is
possible to use a prefix filter for each of the search terms and combine
them with an and filter.
Is there a way to obtain a similar thing with the completion suggest?

Thanks

On Wednesday, 21 August 2013 13:28:22 UTC+1, simonw wrote:

so you want us to expand all the term in you query? I think you should
send multiple prefix requests instead one with "nir" one with "nev".
I really can't entirely figure out when you would have a need for
something like this to be honest. can you provide a usecase that migh tmake
it easier to help you.

simon

On Wednesday, August 21, 2013 12:16:23 PM UTC+2, wron...@gmail.comwrote:

Hello Everyone,

I'm new to elasticsearch and I'm doing some experiments with the
completion suggest feature.
I was wondering if using a string array as 'input' parameter when
indexing, as in the example on the guide

"input": [ "Nevermind", "Nirvana" ]

is there anyway to use multiple prefixes in the suggest query?
Something like:

{
"song-suggest" : {
"text" : "nev nir",
"completion" : {
"field" : "suggest"
}
}
}

Or is there any mapping for the completion type that would allow a
similar suggest query?

Thanks for any help

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wrongmind · August 23, 2013, 9:13am

Hi

2013/8/23 simonw simon.willnauer@elasticsearch.com

hey,

On Thursday, August 22, 2013 10:31:55 PM UTC+2, wron...@gmail.com wrote:

2013/8/22 simonw <simon.w...@**elasticsearch.com>

The use case would be searching for more than one prefix at a time,
possibly "out of order"
Given an input like the following one, a possible query would be on
"smell spir".

"input": [ "smell", "like", "teen", spirit"]

I don't get why you have this input I'd expect it is

"input" : ["smells like teen spirit"]

no?

I'm using the array so I can search for a prefix that is somewhere in the
phrase. I can use "spir" as text to get the title.
I've tried a standard analyzer on the suggest field, but it's not allowing
that kind of search

But it's probably not what the completion suggest was meant for.

I don't if I understand the usecase here. what would you expecte as the
output here?

Let's say I have two documents, the first one

"input": [ "smells", "like", "teen", "spirit"]

"output": "Smells like teen spirit"

and the second one

"input": [ "smells", "like", "children"]

"output": "Smells like children"

I'd like to search with more than one prefix at once. Searching for
"smel" and "spir" together should return "Smells like teen spirit"

see, this is what I want to understand... what is the usecase that you
need to do that? who would type two prefixes?
I don't want to say that this is wrong I just wanna understand it to give
you better advice... I'd expect that you get one prefix that could be
somewhere in the phrase but that is a different problem with different
solutions.

It would be an the ability for a user to narrow the search results while
typing, but using any word in the phrase he's looking for.
The first word would probably be a complete term, not a prefix, when he
starts typing the second term.
For the titles example, it would be someone that starts looking for
"smells" and after getting the results, he starts typing "chil" for
example, to narrow the results.

What would be the best approach to this kind of use case?
And what would be the best way to get a prefix somewhere in the phrase?

Thanks

It the title is a string field indexed with a standard analyzer it is
possible to use a prefix filter for each of the search terms and combine
them with an and filter.
Is there a way to obtain a similar thing with the completion suggest?

Thanks

On Wednesday, 21 August 2013 13:28:22 UTC+1, simonw wrote:

so you want us to expand all the term in you query? I think you should
send multiple prefix requests instead one with "nir" one with "nev".
I really can't entirely figure out when you would have a need for
something like this to be honest. can you provide a usecase that migh tmake
it easier to help you.

simon

On Wednesday, August 21, 2013 12:16:23 PM UTC+2, wron...@gmail.comwrote:

Hello Everyone,

I'm new to elasticsearch and I'm doing some experiments with the
completion suggest feature.
I was wondering if using a string array as 'input' parameter when
indexing, as in the example on the guide

"input": [ "Nevermind", "Nirvana" ]

is there anyway to use multiple prefixes in the suggest query?
Something like:

{
"song-suggest" : {
"text" : "nev nir",
"completion" : {
"field" : "suggest"
}
}
}

Or is there any mapping for the completion type that would allow a
similar suggest query?

Thanks for any help

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simonw_2 · August 23, 2013, 9:24am

On Friday, August 23, 2013 11:13:48 AM UTC+2, wron...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi

2013/8/23 simonw <simon.w...@elasticsearch.com <javascript:>>

hey,

On Thursday, August 22, 2013 10:31:55 PM UTC+2, wron...@gmail.com wrote:

2013/8/22 simonw <simon.w...@**elasticsearch.com>

The use case would be searching for more than one prefix at a time,
possibly "out of order"
Given an input like the following one, a possible query would be on
"smell spir".

"input": [ "smell", "like", "teen", spirit"]

I don't get why you have this input I'd expect it is

"input" : ["smells like teen spirit"]

no?

I'm using the array so I can search for a prefix that is somewhere in the
phrase. I can use "spir" as text to get the title.
I've tried a standard analyzer on the suggest field, but it's not allowing
that kind of search

But it's probably not what the completion suggest was meant for.

I don't if I understand the usecase here. what would you expecte as the
output here?

Let's say I have two documents, the first one

"input": [ "smells", "like", "teen", "spirit"]

"output": "Smells like teen spirit"

and the second one

"input": [ "smells", "like", "children"]

"output": "Smells like children"

I'd like to search with more than one prefix at once. Searching for
"smel" and "spir" together should return "Smells like teen spirit"

see, this is what I want to understand... what is the usecase that you
need to do that? who would type two prefixes?
I don't want to say that this is wrong I just wanna understand it to give
you better advice... I'd expect that you get one prefix that could be
somewhere in the phrase but that is a different problem with different
solutions.

It would be an the ability for a user to narrow the search results while
typing, but using any word in the phrase he's looking for.
The first word would probably be a complete term, not a prefix, when he
starts typing the second term.
For the titles example, it would be someone that starts looking for
"smells" and after getting the results, he starts typing "chil" for
example, to narrow the results.

What would be the best approach to this kind of use case?
And what would be the best way to get a prefix somewhere in the phrase?

ok so you wanna display results while the person is typing? I guess a
edgeNGram approach would be the best for this. I still don't see why I'd
type "chil" after "smells" if you already display me "smells like children"
as a query so I can just select it and fire the search. This service is
more of a query suggestion like you get in google when you start typing.

simon

Thanks

It the title is a string field indexed with a standard analyzer it is
possible to use a prefix filter for each of the search terms and combine
them with an and filter.
Is there a way to obtain a similar thing with the completion suggest?

Thanks

On Wednesday, 21 August 2013 13:28:22 UTC+1, simonw wrote:

so you want us to expand all the term in you query? I think you should
send multiple prefix requests instead one with "nir" one with "nev".
I really can't entirely figure out when you would have a need for
something like this to be honest. can you provide a usecase that migh tmake
it easier to help you.

simon

On Wednesday, August 21, 2013 12:16:23 PM UTC+2, wron...@gmail.comwrote:

Hello Everyone,

I'm new to elasticsearch and I'm doing some experiments with the
completion suggest feature.
I was wondering if using a string array as 'input' parameter when
indexing, as in the example on the guide

"input": [ "Nevermind", "Nirvana" ]

is there anyway to use multiple prefixes in the suggest query?
Something like:

{
"song-suggest" : {
"text" : "nev nir",
"completion" : {
"field" : "suggest"
}
}
}

Or is there any mapping for the completion type that would allow a
similar suggest query?

Thanks for any help

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wrongmind · August 23, 2013, 10:06am

Yes, it's displaying the results while typing. I've tried the approach with
edgeNGram and the one using prefix filters. The edgeNGram was surprising,
because it wasn't much faster than the prefix approach.
I think I'll go with the prefix approach, because the performance gain with
the edgeNGram doesn't seem worth the increased index size.
The completion suggest seems much faster, that's why I was trying to make
it works in this case.

It's returning the top results for "smells" while typing, so maybe "smells
like children" it's not displayed searching just for "smells". But I agree
that is probably a strange use case.

Thanks very much for your help.

2013/8/23 simonw simon.willnauer@elasticsearch.com

On Friday, August 23, 2013 11:13:48 AM UTC+2, wron...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi

2013/8/23 simonw <simon.w...@**elasticsearch.com>

hey,

On Thursday, August 22, 2013 10:31:55 PM UTC+2, wron...@gmail.com wrote:

2013/8/22 simonw <simon.w...@**elasticsearch.com>

The use case would be searching for more than one prefix at a time,
possibly "out of order"
Given an input like the following one, a possible query would be on
"smell spir".

"input": [ "smell", "like", "teen", spirit"]

I don't get why you have this input I'd expect it is

"input" : ["smells like teen spirit"]

no?

I'm using the array so I can search for a prefix that is somewhere in the
phrase. I can use "spir" as text to get the title.
I've tried a standard analyzer on the suggest field, but it's not
allowing that kind of search

But it's probably not what the completion suggest was meant for.

I don't if I understand the usecase here. what would you expecte as
the output here?

Let's say I have two documents, the first one

"input": [ "smells", "like", "teen", "spirit"]

"output": "Smells like teen spirit"

and the second one

"input": [ "smells", "like", "children"]

"output": "Smells like children"

I'd like to search with more than one prefix at once. Searching for
"smel" and "spir" together should return "Smells like teen spirit"

see, this is what I want to understand... what is the usecase that you
need to do that? who would type two prefixes?
I don't want to say that this is wrong I just wanna understand it to
give you better advice... I'd expect that you get one prefix that could be
somewhere in the phrase but that is a different problem with different
solutions.

It would be an the ability for a user to narrow the search results while
typing, but using any word in the phrase he's looking for.
The first word would probably be a complete term, not a prefix, when he
starts typing the second term.
For the titles example, it would be someone that starts looking for
"smells" and after getting the results, he starts typing "chil" for
example, to narrow the results.

What would be the best approach to this kind of use case?
And what would be the best way to get a prefix somewhere in the phrase?

ok so you wanna display results while the person is typing? I guess a
edgeNGram approach would be the best for this. I still don't see why I'd
type "chil" after "smells" if you already display me "smells like children"
as a query so I can just select it and fire the search. This service is
more of a query suggestion like you get in google when you start typing.

simon

Thanks

It the title is a string field indexed with a standard analyzer it is
possible to use a prefix filter for each of the search terms and combine
them with an and filter.
Is there a way to obtain a similar thing with the completion suggest?

Thanks

On Wednesday, 21 August 2013 13:28:22 UTC+1, simonw wrote:

so you want us to expand all the term in you query? I think you
should send multiple prefix requests instead one with "nir" one with "nev".
I really can't entirely figure out when you would have a need for
something like this to be honest. can you provide a usecase that migh tmake
it easier to help you.

simon

On Wednesday, August 21, 2013 12:16:23 PM UTC+2, wron...@gmail.comwrote:

Hello Everyone,

I'm new to elasticsearch and I'm doing some experiments with the
completion suggest feature.
I was wondering if using a string array as 'input' parameter when
indexing, as in the example on the guide

"input": [ "Nevermind", "Nirvana" ]

is there anyway to use multiple prefixes in the suggest query?
Something like:

{
"song-suggest" : {
"text" : "nev nir",
"completion" : {
"field" : "suggest"
}
}
}

Or is there any mapping for the completion type that would allow a
similar suggest query?

Thanks for any help

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