Scroll to get scroll_id only

I'm now working with large data, which means each doc is a little bit large.
I have a scenario that, we have to query a huge number of data which exceeds the limit of from+size(10000).

I'm now using scroll, but sometimes, if I have to query very later data, I must query page by page to get them, as my doc is a little bit large, this cause a lot of time to process.
So I'm wondering, if there is a way, that I can get only scroll_id, without data, and when scroll to the page I want, then I get the data from es. In this way the performance would improve a lot.

It'd be great that if someone knows how and please do help me on it.

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