Elasticsearch swapping


(Vahid) #1

Hi,

ES is running on a ubuntu 64bit in VM environment with the following memory
configuration:

12 gb total memory
5 gb elasticsearch
~3 gb other processes
and 4 gb left for OS.

ES cluster configured with 3 nodes.
In the elasticsearch.yml bootstrap.mlockall set to true. On one of the
nodes I can see that ES is using about 1gb of swap space.
Also no warn log printed on the ES log file and only one node has this
problem.

Is there any settings missed there?

Many thanks,

Vahid

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(Tony Su) #2

Although others might be able to comment,
IMO you need to provide more information, eg

Virtualization technology
What else is running in each node.

So, for comparison, this is my "lab" setup. I've been testing with approx.
1GB data that has created up to 15GB of additional metadata. I've been
surprised how efficient and functional the cluster is even with its minimal
resources for the amount of data it's working with almost no noticeable
latencies (the current bottleneck is Host disk I/O, nothing in the Guests).
I have observed in any of the Guests. es-hq states thus, and
I have verified by running "free" in each node.

node1 - 4GB ram, 20gb HDD,
LXDE Desktop installed, so can run multiple consoles, web browser and more
easily.
Running ES, Kibana (and other web apps like es-head, es-hq), redis,
logstash, netcat

nodes 2-4 - 1GB RAM 20GB HDD
All cloned from one so are as consistently the same as possible.
All running in text mode (no Desktop) so that all stats and observations
should be as unpolluted as possible
Running ES

I'm currently running in VMware, but IMO the configuration would be fine
for practically any other virtualization technology.

Note that if you're running a Desktop in every node, the OS may be pushing
parts of the Desktop's memory usage to swap.

Tony

On Monday, February 10, 2014 9:16:58 AM UTC-8, Vahid wrote:

Hi,

ES is running on a ubuntu 64bit in VM environment with the following
memory configuration:

12 gb total memory
5 gb elasticsearch
~3 gb other processes
and 4 gb left for OS.

ES cluster configured with 3 nodes.
In the elasticsearch.yml bootstrap.mlockall set to true. On one of the
nodes I can see that ES is using about 1gb of swap space.
Also no warn log printed on the ES log file and only one node has this
problem.

Is there any settings missed there?

Many thanks,

Vahid

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(Mark Walkom) #3

How are you seeing this, ie what monitoring are you using?
Also, what is the "~3 gb other processes" exactly for?

Regards,
Mark Walkom

Infrastructure Engineer
Campaign Monitor
email: markw@campaignmonitor.com
web: www.campaignmonitor.com

On 11 February 2014 04:16, Vahid vhasani57@gmail.com wrote:

Hi,

ES is running on a ubuntu 64bit in VM environment with the following
memory configuration:

12 gb total memory
5 gb elasticsearch
~3 gb other processes
and 4 gb left for OS.

ES cluster configured with 3 nodes.
In the elasticsearch.yml bootstrap.mlockall set to true. On one of the
nodes I can see that ES is using about 1gb of swap space.
Also no warn log printed on the ES log file and only one node has this
problem.

Is there any settings missed there?

Many thanks,

Vahid

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(Vahid) #4

Thank you Tony and Mark,

atm I have no more information about the virtualization because it's our
customer systems, maybe later I can provide more information regarding
that.
Other processes are our java applications which use ES to index and search
data.

From htop/top I can see that almost all the swap memory is used, and by
running a bash script I can see how much swap space is used by which
process and mosthly is used by ES.

On Monday, February 10, 2014 10:44:00 PM UTC+1, Mark Walkom wrote:

How are you seeing this, ie what monitoring are you using?
Also, what is the "~3 gb other processes" exactly for?

Regards,
Mark Walkom

Infrastructure Engineer
Campaign Monitor
email: ma...@campaignmonitor.com <javascript:>
web: www.campaignmonitor.com

On 11 February 2014 04:16, Vahid <vhas...@gmail.com <javascript:>> wrote:

Hi,

ES is running on a ubuntu 64bit in VM environment with the following
memory configuration:

12 gb total memory
5 gb elasticsearch
~3 gb other processes
and 4 gb left for OS.

ES cluster configured with 3 nodes.
In the elasticsearch.yml bootstrap.mlockall set to true. On one of the
nodes I can see that ES is using about 1gb of swap space.
Also no warn log printed on the ES log file and only one node has this
problem.

Is there any settings missed there?

Many thanks,

Vahid

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(Alexander Reelsen) #5

Hey,

with recent elasticsearch versions (including newer 0.90), you can see if
bootstrap.mlockall setting is really applied in the nodes info. So make
sure setting it, was really successful.

curl -XGET 'http://localhost:9200/_nodes' and search for mlockall, which
must be set to true.

--Alex

On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 10:08 AM, Vahid vhasani57@gmail.com wrote:

Thank you Tony and Mark,

atm I have no more information about the virtualization because it's our
customer systems, maybe later I can provide more information regarding
that.
Other processes are our java applications which use ES to index and search
data.

From htop/top I can see that almost all the swap memory is used, and by
running a bash script I can see how much swap space is used by which
process and mosthly is used by ES.

On Monday, February 10, 2014 10:44:00 PM UTC+1, Mark Walkom wrote:

How are you seeing this, ie what monitoring are you using?
Also, what is the "~3 gb other processes" exactly for?

Regards,
Mark Walkom

Infrastructure Engineer
Campaign Monitor
email: ma...@campaignmonitor.com
web: www.campaignmonitor.com

On 11 February 2014 04:16, Vahid vhas...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi,

ES is running on a ubuntu 64bit in VM environment with the following
memory configuration:

12 gb total memory
5 gb elasticsearch
~3 gb other processes
and 4 gb left for OS.

ES cluster configured with 3 nodes.
In the elasticsearch.yml bootstrap.mlockall set to true. On one of the
nodes I can see that ES is using about 1gb of swap space.
Also no warn log printed on the ES log file and only one node has this
problem.

Is there any settings missed there?

Many thanks,

Vahid

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(Vahid) #6

Hi Alex,
thank you.

I've run the command and also it shows that mlockall is set to true !

On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 2:33:49 PM UTC+1, Alexander Reelsen wrote:

Hey,

with recent elasticsearch versions (including newer 0.90), you can see if
bootstrap.mlockall setting is really applied in the nodes info. So make
sure setting it, was really successful.

curl -XGET 'http://localhost:9200/_nodes' and search for mlockall, which
must be set to true.

--Alex

On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 10:08 AM, Vahid <vhas...@gmail.com <javascript:>>wrote:

Thank you Tony and Mark,

atm I have no more information about the virtualization because it's our
customer systems, maybe later I can provide more information regarding
that.
Other processes are our java applications which use ES to index and
search data.

From htop/top I can see that almost all the swap memory is used, and by
running a bash script I can see how much swap space is used by which
process and mosthly is used by ES.

On Monday, February 10, 2014 10:44:00 PM UTC+1, Mark Walkom wrote:

How are you seeing this, ie what monitoring are you using?
Also, what is the "~3 gb other processes" exactly for?

Regards,
Mark Walkom

Infrastructure Engineer
Campaign Monitor
email: ma...@campaignmonitor.com
web: www.campaignmonitor.com

On 11 February 2014 04:16, Vahid vhas...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi,

ES is running on a ubuntu 64bit in VM environment with the following
memory configuration:

12 gb total memory
5 gb elasticsearch
~3 gb other processes
and 4 gb left for OS.

ES cluster configured with 3 nodes.
In the elasticsearch.yml bootstrap.mlockall set to true. On one of the
nodes I can see that ES is using about 1gb of swap space.
Also no warn log printed on the ES log file and only one node has this
problem.

Is there any settings missed there?

Many thanks,

Vahid

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(Alexander Reelsen) #7

Hey

minor question/just a wild guess: Could this one node (1gb is the default
heap size) be a client node, where you didnot configure the mlockall
setting as it is started inside of another java application? If the
mlockall setting was successful, I highly doubt, that any of these
processes swap.

All the nodes connected to the cluster should show in the nodes info and
have the mlockall setting set to true.

--Alex

On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 4:51 PM, Vahid vhasani57@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Alex,
thank you.

I've run the command and also it shows that mlockall is set to true !

On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 2:33:49 PM UTC+1, Alexander Reelsen wrote:

Hey,

with recent elasticsearch versions (including newer 0.90), you can see if
bootstrap.mlockall setting is really applied in the nodes info. So make
sure setting it, was really successful.

curl -XGET 'http://localhost:9200/_nodes' and search for mlockall, which
must be set to true.

--Alex

On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 10:08 AM, Vahid vhas...@gmail.com wrote:

Thank you Tony and Mark,

atm I have no more information about the virtualization because it's our
customer systems, maybe later I can provide more information regarding
that.
Other processes are our java applications which use ES to index and
search data.

From htop/top I can see that almost all the swap memory is used, and by
running a bash script I can see how much swap space is used by which
process and mosthly is used by ES.

On Monday, February 10, 2014 10:44:00 PM UTC+1, Mark Walkom wrote:

How are you seeing this, ie what monitoring are you using?
Also, what is the "~3 gb other processes" exactly for?

Regards,
Mark Walkom

Infrastructure Engineer
Campaign Monitor
email: ma...@campaignmonitor.com
web: www.campaignmonitor.com

On 11 February 2014 04:16, Vahid vhas...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi,

ES is running on a ubuntu 64bit in VM environment with the following
memory configuration:

12 gb total memory
5 gb elasticsearch
~3 gb other processes
and 4 gb left for OS.

ES cluster configured with 3 nodes.
In the elasticsearch.yml bootstrap.mlockall set to true. On one of the
nodes I can see that ES is using about 1gb of swap space.
Also no warn log printed on the ES log file and only one node has this
problem.

Is there any settings missed there?

Many thanks,

Vahid

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(Vahid) #8

Hi Alex,
Thank you for your comments.

You can see the curl command result (for security reason, ip addresses
replaced with ****). For all 3 nodes, bootstrap.mlockall is true.
Also doesn't matter on which node I run the command.

{"ok":true,"cluster_name":"","nodes":{"rqptXnAMS7O-scqGJTIssQ":{"name":
"
.42:10000","transport_address":"inet[bdm01-test/.42:9300]",
"hostname":"bdm01-test","version":"0.90.3","http_address":
"inet[/
.42:9200]","settings":{"path.home":"/home/nli/opt/bdm","pidfile":
"/home/nli/opt/bdm/pid/.42:10000/elasticsearch.pid","path.logs":
"/home/nli/opt/bdm/log/elasticsearch/
.42:10000","path.work":
"/tmp/elasticsearch/.42:10000","max-open-files":"true","path.data":
"/home/nli/data/elasticsearchdata","config":
"/home/nli/opt/bdm/config/
.42:10000.yml",
"discovery.zen.ping.unicast.hosts.2":".44:9300",
"discovery.zen.ping.unicast.hosts.1":"
.43:9300",
"gateway.recovery_after_time":"5m","discovery.zen.ping.unicast.hosts.0":
".42:9300","indices.ttl.interval":"86400s","bootstrap.mlockall":"true",
"cluster.name":"
","http.port":"9200","network.publish_host":".42",
"indices.memory.index_buffer_size":"20%",
"discovery.zen.minimum_master_nodes":"2","discovery.zen.fd.ping_timeout":
"60s","gateway.recovery_after_nodes":"3","gateway.expected_nodes":"3",
"discovery.zen.ping.timeout":"30s","indices.fielddata.cache.expire":"1m",
"discovery.zen.fd.ping_retries":"10","node.name":"
.42:10000",
"indices.fielddata.cache.size":"10%","action.auto_create_index":"false",
"transport.tcp.compress":"true","discovery.zen.ping.multicast.enabled":
"false","name":".42:10000"}},"g302MXTgRY2qG7OfTXbevQ":{"name":
"
.43:10000","transport_address":"inet[/.43:9300]","hostname":
"bdm02-test","version":"0.90.3","http_address":"inet[/
.43:9200]",
"settings":{"path.home":"/home/nli/opt/bdm","pidfile":
"/home/nli/opt/bdm/pid/.43:10000/elasticsearch.pid","path.logs":
"/home/nli/opt/bdm/log/elasticsearch/
.43:10000","path.work":
"/tmp/elasticsearch/.43:10000","max-open-files":"true","path.data":
"/home/nli/data/elasticsearchdata","config":
"/home/nli/opt/bdm/config/
.43:10000.yml",
"discovery.zen.ping.unicast.hosts.2":".44:9300",
"discovery.zen.ping.unicast.hosts.1":"
.43:9300",
"gateway.recovery_after_time":"5m","discovery.zen.ping.unicast.hosts.0":
".42:9300","indices.ttl.interval":"86400s","bootstrap.mlockall":"true",
"cluster.name":"
","http.port":"9200","network.publish_host":".43",
"indices.memory.index_buffer_size":"20%",
"discovery.zen.minimum_master_nodes":"2","discovery.zen.fd.ping_timeout":
"60s","gateway.recovery_after_nodes":"3","gateway.expected_nodes":"3",
"discovery.zen.ping.timeout":"30s","indices.fielddata.cache.expire":"1m",
"discovery.zen.fd.ping_retries":"10","node.name":"
.43:10000",
"indices.fielddata.cache.size":"10%","action.auto_create_index":"false",
"transport.tcp.compress":"true","discovery.zen.ping.multicast.enabled":
"false","name":".43:10000"}},"WxvcZ71jSom2aklRu2LYjg":{"name":
"
.44:10000","transport_address":"inet[/.44:9300]","hostname":
"bdm03-test","version":"0.90.3","http_address":"inet[/
.44:9200]",
"settings":{"path.home":"/home/nli/opt/bdm","pidfile":
"/home/nli/opt/bdm/pid/.44:10000/elasticsearch.pid","path.logs":
"/home/nli/opt/bdm/log/elasticsearch/
.44:10000","path.work":
"/tmp/elasticsearch/.44:10000","max-open-files":"true","path.data":
"/home/nli/data/elasticsearchdata","config":
"/home/nli/opt/bdm/config/
.44:10000.yml",
"discovery.zen.ping.unicast.hosts.2":".44:9300",
"discovery.zen.ping.unicast.hosts.1":"
.43:9300",
"gateway.recovery_after_time":"5m","discovery.zen.ping.unicast.hosts.0":
".42:9300","indices.ttl.interval":"86400s","bootstrap.mlockall":"true",
"cluster.name":"
","http.port":"9200","network.publish_host":".44",
"indices.memory.index_buffer_size":"20%",
"discovery.zen.minimum_master_nodes":"2","discovery.zen.fd.ping_timeout":
"60s","gateway.recovery_after_nodes":"3","gateway.expected_nodes":"3",
"discovery.zen.ping.timeout":"30s","indices.fielddata.cache.expire":"1m",
"discovery.zen.fd.ping_retries":"10","node.name":"
.44:10000",
"indices.fielddata.cache.size":"10%","action.auto_create_index":"false",
"transport.tcp.compress":"true","discovery.zen.ping.multicast.enabled":
"false","name":"****.44:10000"}}}}Enter code here...

Best,
Vahid

On Wednesday, February 12, 2014 2:45:46 PM UTC+1, Alexander Reelsen wrote:

Hey

minor question/just a wild guess: Could this one node (1gb is the default
heap size) be a client node, where you didnot configure the mlockall
setting as it is started inside of another java application? If the
mlockall setting was successful, I highly doubt, that any of these
processes swap.

All the nodes connected to the cluster should show in the nodes info and
have the mlockall setting set to true.

--Alex

On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 4:51 PM, Vahid <vhas...@gmail.com <javascript:>>wrote:

Hi Alex,
thank you.

I've run the command and also it shows that mlockall is set to true !

On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 2:33:49 PM UTC+1, Alexander Reelsen wrote:

Hey,

with recent elasticsearch versions (including newer 0.90), you can see
if bootstrap.mlockall setting is really applied in the nodes info. So make
sure setting it, was really successful.

curl -XGET 'http://localhost:9200/_nodes' and search for mlockall,
which must be set to true.

--Alex

On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 10:08 AM, Vahid vhas...@gmail.com wrote:

Thank you Tony and Mark,

atm I have no more information about the virtualization because it's
our customer systems, maybe later I can provide more information regarding
that.
Other processes are our java applications which use ES to index and
search data.

From htop/top I can see that almost all the swap memory is used, and by
running a bash script I can see how much swap space is used by which
process and mosthly is used by ES.

On Monday, February 10, 2014 10:44:00 PM UTC+1, Mark Walkom wrote:

How are you seeing this, ie what monitoring are you using?
Also, what is the "~3 gb other processes" exactly for?

Regards,
Mark Walkom

Infrastructure Engineer
Campaign Monitor
email: ma...@campaignmonitor.com
web: www.campaignmonitor.com

On 11 February 2014 04:16, Vahid vhas...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi,

ES is running on a ubuntu 64bit in VM environment with the following
memory configuration:

12 gb total memory
5 gb elasticsearch
~3 gb other processes
and 4 gb left for OS.

ES cluster configured with 3 nodes.
In the elasticsearch.yml bootstrap.mlockall set to true. On one of
the nodes I can see that ES is using about 1gb of swap space.
Also no warn log printed on the ES log file and only one node has
this problem.

Is there any settings missed there?

Many thanks,

Vahid

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