Ridiculously long Scroll_id

Does Scroll_id get longer with the number of shards? I have 500 shards (for
using custom routing and speeding up search queries), and I when I tried to
do a scan search, I got back a scroll_id of length 20708.

My guess is that this is because the scroll_id is some id for each shard
concatenated together. (Is my guess completely off?) Is there a way to make
each shard use the same id, or have a table that translates a public
scroll_id that's returned to one that's used internally?

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The scroll id is a base64 encoded string, that I believe does have
information relating to your shards.

Decode it to see its contents.
On Jul 23, 2013 5:50 PM, "Scott Chung" scottc52@gmail.com wrote:

Does Scroll_id get longer with the number of shards? I have 500 shards
(for using custom routing and speeding up search queries), and I when I
tried to do a scan search, I got back a scroll_id of length 20708.

My guess is that this is because the scroll_id is some id for each shard
concatenated together. (Is my guess completely off?) Is there a way to make
each shard use the same id, or have a table that translates a public
scroll_id that's returned to one that's used internally?

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When I decode the scroll id, I get the following:

"scan;500;1607138:Ah5ZV4RiRRmr3OjrrZB48A;1661193:3FbURZzHT3-XHuYGQCRQ3g;1636318:NbHVKbL2TJedKQI8ejKA2g;1607139:Ah5ZV4RiRRmr3OjrrZB48A;1713931:-1U8JPQ0TvGk8XX_6dGp_A;...."

So, my guess is this is "scan; {# of shards};
{shard_id_1}:{corresponding_scroll_id_1}; {shard_id_2}:{corresponding_scroll_id_2};
..."
So, the scroll_id grows linearly to the number of shards. In fact, for me,
the scroll_id is too large to pass as part of the url.
Can we get a fix for this?

On Tuesday, July 23, 2013 6:20:22 PM UTC-7, Oli wrote:

The scroll id is a base64 encoded string, that I believe does have
information relating to your shards.

Decode it to see its contents.
On Jul 23, 2013 5:50 PM, "Scott Chung" <scot...@gmail.com <javascript:>>
wrote:

Does Scroll_id get longer with the number of shards? I have 500 shards
(for using custom routing and speeding up search queries), and I when I
tried to do a scan search, I got back a scroll_id of length 20708.

My guess is that this is because the scroll_id is some id for each shard
concatenated together. (Is my guess completely off?) Is there a way to make
each shard use the same id, or have a table that translates a public
scroll_id that's returned to one that's used internally?

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You don't have to pass it as part of the url. You can simply send it in the
request body
(Elasticsearch Platform — Find real-time answers at scale | Elastic).

On Tuesday, July 23, 2013 9:31:45 PM UTC-4, Scott Chung wrote:

When I decode the scroll id, I get the following:

"scan;500;1607138:Ah5ZV4RiRRmr3OjrrZB48A;1661193:3FbURZzHT3-XHuYGQCRQ3g;1636318:NbHVKbL2TJedKQI8ejKA2g;1607139:Ah5ZV4RiRRmr3OjrrZB48A;1713931:-1U8JPQ0TvGk8XX_6dGp_A;...."

So, my guess is this is "scan; {# of shards};
{shard_id_1}:{corresponding_scroll_id_1}; {shard_id_2}:{corresponding_scroll_id_2};
..."
So, the scroll_id grows linearly to the number of shards. In fact, for me,
the scroll_id is too large to pass as part of the url.
Can we get a fix for this?

On Tuesday, July 23, 2013 6:20:22 PM UTC-7, Oli wrote:

The scroll id is a base64 encoded string, that I believe does have
information relating to your shards.

Decode it to see its contents.
On Jul 23, 2013 5:50 PM, "Scott Chung" scot...@gmail.com wrote:

Does Scroll_id get longer with the number of shards? I have 500 shards
(for using custom routing and speeding up search queries), and I when I
tried to do a scan search, I got back a scroll_id of length 20708.

My guess is that this is because the scroll_id is some id for each shard
concatenated together. (Is my guess completely off?) Is there a way to make
each shard use the same id, or have a table that translates a public
scroll_id that's returned to one that's used internally?

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Yes, that is what I ended up doing. (In case anybody's also using Nest and
runs into this trouble. You can use the "searchRaw" method to trick the
client into parsing the results for you.)
But, it's still not really desirable to be passing really long ID's around.

On Tuesday, July 23, 2013 9:29:16 PM UTC-7, Igor Motov wrote:

You don't have to pass it as part of the url. You can simply send it in
the request body (
Elasticsearch Platform — Find real-time answers at scale | Elastic).

On Tuesday, July 23, 2013 9:31:45 PM UTC-4, Scott Chung wrote:

When I decode the scroll id, I get the following:

"scan;500;1607138:Ah5ZV4RiRRmr3OjrrZB48A;1661193:3FbURZzHT3-XHuYGQCRQ3g;1636318:NbHVKbL2TJedKQI8ejKA2g;1607139:Ah5ZV4RiRRmr3OjrrZB48A;1713931:-1U8JPQ0TvGk8XX_6dGp_A;...."

So, my guess is this is "scan; {# of shards};
{shard_id_1}:{corresponding_scroll_id_1}; {shard_id_2}:{corresponding_scroll_id_2};
..."
So, the scroll_id grows linearly to the number of shards. In fact, for
me, the scroll_id is too large to pass as part of the url.
Can we get a fix for this?

On Tuesday, July 23, 2013 6:20:22 PM UTC-7, Oli wrote:

The scroll id is a base64 encoded string, that I believe does have
information relating to your shards.

Decode it to see its contents.
On Jul 23, 2013 5:50 PM, "Scott Chung" scot...@gmail.com wrote:

Does Scroll_id get longer with the number of shards? I have 500 shards
(for using custom routing and speeding up search queries), and I when I
tried to do a scan search, I got back a scroll_id of length 20708.

My guess is that this is because the scroll_id is some id for each
shard concatenated together. (Is my guess completely off?) Is there a way
to make each shard use the same id, or have a table that translates a
public scroll_id that's returned to one that's used internally?

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