5.5.0 Filter by date and keep historical data

I've been looking for some information about timelion but I have some questions:

I saw that I can make a timelion dashboard visualize unaffected by dashboard filters using
.es(kibana=false)

But this is my problem:

  1. I have a dashboard
  2. In that dashboard I have 2 visualizes
  3. Visualize 1 is timelion's with .es(kibana=false)
  4. In visualize 2, I filter by date
  5. Visualize 1 is filtered by date too

Do you know how can I get the first visualization unaffected by this?

Thanks