Changed Master Node and New Master Did Not Find Old Indices

Hi,

I have a cluster with 1 master and 3 data nodes. I needed to change
master node. So, I created a new master node and shutdown the old one.
Both are EC2 instances. After doing this new master did not find old
indices. All the files belong to old indices still remains inside the
data nodes.

Is there a way to make new master node find those files and use old indices?

Thanks,
Umutcan

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Did it join the cluster without any problems?
Is it set to master: true and data:true?

On 19 November 2014 02:29, Umutcan umutcan@gamegos.com wrote:

Hi,

I have a cluster with 1 master and 3 data nodes. I needed to change master
node. So, I created a new master node and shutdown the old one. Both are
EC2 instances. After doing this new master did not find old indices. All
the files belong to old indices still remains inside the data nodes.

Is there a way to make new master node find those files and use old
indices?

Thanks,
Umutcan

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Yes, it did and both are set to true.

But, it did not join the cluster until I shut down the old master.

On 18-11-2014 22:17, Mark Walkom wrote:

Did it join the cluster without any problems?
Is it set to master: true and data:true?

On 19 November 2014 02:29, Umutcan <umutcan@gamegos.com
mailto:umutcan@gamegos.com> wrote:

Hi,

I have a cluster with 1 master and 3 data nodes. I needed to
change master node. So, I created a new master node and shutdown
the old one.  Both are EC2 instances. After doing this new master
did not find old indices. All the files belong to old indices
still remains inside the data nodes.

Is there a way to make new master node find those files and use
old indices?

Thanks,
Umutcan

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What version are you on?

Is there anything in the logs?

On 19 November 2014 18:14, Umutcan umutcan@gamegos.com wrote:

Yes, it did and both are set to true.

But, it did not join the cluster until I shut down the old master.

On 18-11-2014 22:17, Mark Walkom wrote:

Did it join the cluster without any problems?
Is it set to master: true and data:true?

On 19 November 2014 02:29, Umutcan umutcan@gamegos.com wrote:

Hi,

I have a cluster with 1 master and 3 data nodes. I needed to change
master node. So, I created a new master node and shutdown the old one.
Both are EC2 instances. After doing this new master did not find old
indices. All the files belong to old indices still remains inside the data
nodes.

Is there a way to make new master node find those files and use old
indices?

Thanks,
Umutcan

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I am using 1.4.0 version. There is nothing in the logs.

I started new master after I shut down the old one. I thought new master
could detect indices, but I guess master node stores some meta data
related to indices and these data is gone with the old master node. New
master created all the indices from scratch.

I use timestamp in the index names, so indices before yesterday is still
remains in the data nodes. I want to load these indices.

On 19-11-2014 12:36, Mark Walkom wrote:

What version are you on?

Is there anything in the logs?

On 19 November 2014 18:14, Umutcan <umutcan@gamegos.com
mailto:umutcan@gamegos.com> wrote:

Yes, it did and both are set to true.

But, it did not join the cluster until I shut down the old master.

On 18-11-2014 22:17, Mark Walkom wrote:
Did it join the cluster without any problems?
Is it set to master: true and data:true?

On 19 November 2014 02:29, Umutcan <umutcan@gamegos.com
<mailto:umutcan@gamegos.com>> wrote:

    Hi,

    I have a cluster with 1 master and 3 data nodes. I needed to
    change master node. So, I created a new master node and
    shutdown the old one.  Both are EC2 instances. After doing
    this new master did not find old indices. All the files
    belong to old indices still remains inside the data nodes.

    Is there a way to make new master node find those files and
    use old indices?

    Thanks,
    Umutcan

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If your new master capable node joined the cluster then it would have
received the cluster state metadata, and (presuming things are all ok) when
you remove the old master then it should be promoted and take over without
problems.

I don't really know much about the AWS plugin though, but a standard
cluster works in that manner.

On 19 November 2014 23:38, Umutcan umutcan@gamegos.com wrote:

I am using 1.4.0 version. There is nothing in the logs.

I started new master after I shut down the old one. I thought new master
could detect indices, but I guess master node stores some meta data related
to indices and these data is gone with the old master node. New master
created all the indices from scratch.

I use timestamp in the index names, so indices before yesterday is still
remains in the data nodes. I want to load these indices.

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What version are you on?

Is there anything in the logs?

On 19 November 2014 18:14, Umutcan umutcan@gamegos.com wrote:

Yes, it did and both are set to true.

But, it did not join the cluster until I shut down the old master.

On 18-11-2014 22:17, Mark Walkom wrote:

Did it join the cluster without any problems?
Is it set to master: true and data:true?

On 19 November 2014 02:29, Umutcan umutcan@gamegos.com wrote:

Hi,

I have a cluster with 1 master and 3 data nodes. I needed to change
master node. So, I created a new master node and shutdown the old one.
Both are EC2 instances. After doing this new master did not find old
indices. All the files belong to old indices still remains inside the data
nodes.

Is there a way to make new master node find those files and use old
indices?

Thanks,
Umutcan

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You are right. It should be ok if the new node joined before I remove
old one, but the new master joined cluster after I removed the old one.

I will change my cluster configuration. I think it is better to make all
nodes both data and master.

But, my question still remains. Is there a way to recover those indices
from files?

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If your new master capable node joined the cluster then it would have
received the cluster state metadata, and (presuming things are all ok)
when you remove the old master then it should be promoted and take
over without problems.

I don't really know much about the AWS plugin though, but a standard
cluster works in that manner.

On 19 November 2014 23:38, Umutcan <umutcan@gamegos.com
mailto:umutcan@gamegos.com> wrote:

I am using 1.4.0 version. There is nothing in the logs.

I started new master after I shut down the old one. I thought new
master could detect indices, but I guess master node stores some
meta data related to indices and these data is gone with the old
master node. New master created all the indices from scratch.

I use timestamp in the index names, so indices before yesterday is
still remains in the data nodes. I want to load these indices.


On 19-11-2014 12:36, Mark Walkom wrote:
What version are you on?

Is there anything in the logs?

On 19 November 2014 18:14, Umutcan <umutcan@gamegos.com
<mailto:umutcan@gamegos.com>> wrote:

    Yes, it did and both are set to true.

    But, it did not join the cluster until I shut down the old
    master.

    On 18-11-2014 22:17, Mark Walkom wrote:
    Did it join the cluster without any problems?
    Is it set to master: true and data:true?

    On 19 November 2014 02:29, Umutcan <umutcan@gamegos.com
    <mailto:umutcan@gamegos.com>> wrote:

        Hi,

        I have a cluster with 1 master and 3 data nodes. I
        needed to change master node. So, I created a new master
        node and shutdown the old one.  Both are EC2 instances.
        After doing this new master did not find old indices.
        All the files belong to old indices still remains inside
        the data nodes.

        Is there a way to make new master node find those files
        and use old indices?

        Thanks,
        Umutcan

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ES can recover what it knows as dangling indexes, those not in the cluster
state but on FS.
You can read more here
http://www.elasticsearch.org/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/current/modules-gateway-local.html#_dangling_indices

On 20 November 2014 18:00, Umutcan umutcan@gamegos.com wrote:

You are right. It should be ok if the new node joined before I remove old
one, but the new master joined cluster after I removed the old one.

I will change my cluster configuration. I think it is better to make all
nodes both data and master.

But, my question still remains. Is there a way to recover those indices
from files?

On 20-11-2014 00:42, Mark Walkom wrote:

If your new master capable node joined the cluster then it would have
received the cluster state metadata, and (presuming things are all ok) when
you remove the old master then it should be promoted and take over without
problems.

I don't really know much about the AWS plugin though, but a standard
cluster works in that manner.

On 19 November 2014 23:38, Umutcan umutcan@gamegos.com wrote:

I am using 1.4.0 version. There is nothing in the logs.

I started new master after I shut down the old one. I thought new master
could detect indices, but I guess master node stores some meta data related
to indices and these data is gone with the old master node. New master
created all the indices from scratch.

I use timestamp in the index names, so indices before yesterday is still
remains in the data nodes. I want to load these indices.

On 19-11-2014 12:36, Mark Walkom wrote:

What version are you on?

Is there anything in the logs?

On 19 November 2014 18:14, Umutcan umutcan@gamegos.com wrote:

Yes, it did and both are set to true.

But, it did not join the cluster until I shut down the old master.

On 18-11-2014 22:17, Mark Walkom wrote:

Did it join the cluster without any problems?
Is it set to master: true and data:true?

On 19 November 2014 02:29, Umutcan umutcan@gamegos.com wrote:

Hi,

I have a cluster with 1 master and 3 data nodes. I needed to change
master node. So, I created a new master node and shutdown the old one.
Both are EC2 instances. After doing this new master did not find old
indices. All the files belong to old indices still remains inside the data
nodes.

Is there a way to make new master node find those files and use old
indices?

Thanks,
Umutcan

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