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Oh! I didn't see that. Thank you. I will look again.

Yeah I actually like many things about discourse. I also like many of the
low friction aspects of a mailing list. I am worried my email sounds too
negative. I should list positives like great markdown support and much
prettier and more legible emails. Discourse is phenomenal forum software. I
honestly hope they can really bridge the gap effortlessly to have as part
of their capabilities truly effortless implementation of a dev mailing list
with an optional forum view.

I'm sure I'll be using discourse to great effect (and it seems to be being
used). So I could be completly wrong about all my points. :slight_smile:

Doug

On Sunday, May 10, 2015, Ivan Brusic ivan@brusic.com wrote:

I should have added something similar to what does expressed in his last
paragraph. My feedback was meant to be constructive. Despite this being a
technical mailing list, I still appreciate a more personal touch.

BTW, Doug, you can watch specific categories. There is a general watch-all
setting that you might have turned on.

Ivan
On May 10, 2015 2:37 PM, "Doug Turnbull" <
dturnbull@opensourceconnections.com
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','dturnbull@opensourceconnections.com');>>
wrote:

I agree.

While I appreciate the experimentation, I hope discourse can get to a
point where I can forget it's even a forum. Whereby everything can just
truly feel like a native mailing list with a great deal less friction, but
it's not there yet.

Here's some of the missing features:

  • a signup process that's more an email subscription (just paste in an
    email address) without having to create any kind of forum account or
    profile.

  • the ability to reply to someone individually to their email address.
    The ability for others to email me directly without discourses PM feature.

  • It needs the ability to subscribe per topic. Things are a bit noisy
    right now (ie I'm not interested in log stash)

  • eliminate "noreply" in the email notifications. I don't feel like I
    should participate via email when I see this. Give it a friendly name.

Right now use via email feels second class. But I think it's the most
important thing. I'm likely to scan my low priority inbox where mailing
list emails are sent. I'm going to struggle to remember to check in on and
participate in a forum to help folks. It's another place to go and all my
other OSS mailing lists come to my email and I can work with them
seemlessly. So I'm likely to forget to check or possibly not want to bother
with elastic which uses a different system.

Yes, I do get the notifications, but it doesn't quite feel the same as a
mailing list for the reasons above. It feels like a notification from
another system.

Anyway long and frank email. Forgive the bluntness. I just wanted to
express hopefully useful feedback. I do appreciate the thoughtfulness
here. I know elastic and discourse folks are very smart. Email truly can
become a first class experience and keep some of the great things about
discourse.

Cheers!
Doug

On Sunday, May 10, 2015, Ivan Brusic <ivan@brusic.com
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ivan@brusic.com');>> wrote:

I really do not care for the new mailing list.

First of all, I can no longer see real names and email addresses. All I
see is whatever nonsensical handle someone choose on sign up. Searching for
Adrien no longer returns his latest posts.

Second, since every email comes from noreply@discuss.elastic.co, I can
no longer see who replied to a thread. All I see is the handle of the
original poster. I can see the reply counts, but have no idea who the
replies are from.

Add both of these issues together, and the list has now become very
impersonal.

Cheers,

Ivan
On May 5, 2015 10:49 AM, "Leslie Hawthorn" leslie.hawthorn@elastic.co
wrote:

Sadly, we cannot twibble bit to allow certain types of links but not
others.

However, we can adjust the forum settings to allow users to include
links in their posts from the start of using the forum. I've done so. Let
us know if you have any further issues.

And, to reiterate what Tyler said earlier, it would be super awesome to
put this feedback in the Meta Elastic category.[0]

Why you may ask?

  1. Employees from Discourse are keeping an eye on our forum to help us
    help you have a good experience. They're not reading this list, though.

  2. Trying for the single source of truth mentioned in my original post.

Thank you to everyone for the great feedback so far!

[0] - Meta Elastic - Discuss the Elastic Stack or via email discuss+meta [at]
elastic [dot] co

Cheers,
LH

On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 12:57 AM, Nikolas Everett nik9000@gmail.com
wrote:

I think github and pastebins/gists shouldn't be considered against the
limit. We ask people to use gist all the time and github issue or code
links are a good thing to use as well.
On May 4, 2015 5:40 PM, "joergprante@gmail.com" joergprante@gmail.com
wrote:

Thanks Shaunak,

I appreciate that. I think it would be more than welcome to let
others of the community also take the advantage of including Github issues
into the forum software which contain numerous links:

Link level in a post

Best,

Jörg

On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 11:05 PM, shaunak@elastic.co wrote:

Hey Jörg,

I've removed this restriction from your account. You should be able
to post more than 2 links in a post now :slight_smile:

Shaunak

On Monday, May 4, 2015 at 2:07:14 PM UTC-5, Jörg Prante wrote:

It does not work. I can not post messages with links.

After I try to post a new topic such as

----- snip----
To all of you who want to sneak at the features planned for ES 2.0,
this issue collects some of it

Roadmap for 2.0 · Issue #9970 · elastic/elasticsearch · GitHub

Best,

Jörg
----snip----

I receive a denial

"Sorry, new users can only put 2 links in a post."

Beside the fact I included just one link, why this restriction? A
bit sad that I am considered a new user after five years happily using ES
but the machine is always right in the end :wink:

Jörg

On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 6:58 PM, Leslie Hawthorn <
leslie....@elastic.co> wrote:

On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 6:41 PM, Nikolas Everett nik...@gmail.com
wrote:

I suspect its read only while they sort out resourcing issues.
Cache hit rate is likely quite high while readonly.
On May 4, 2015 12:38 PM, Jürgen Wagner (DVT) <
juergen...@devoteam.com> wrote:

The site is read-only. No signups possible. Hmm...

Our friends at Discourse have reported that the site outage has
been resolved. They'll keep up with updates via their Twitter account:

https://twitter.com/discourse/status/595268564493279232

In the meantime, please go forth and use the forums. If they fall
over again we will work to ensure speedy resolution.

Thanks for your patience, folks.

Cheers,
LH

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