Getting started on a Mac (Splunk user looking to migrate)


(Phoenix Kiula) #1

Hi. I'm somewhat familiar with Splunk, because our company invested in it.
Now it's proving to be expensive so we're looking for alternatives. (It's a
super tool though)

ElasticSearch was recommended on Quora. But downloading and trying to
install it is hideous. This seems for tech nerds. Or am I missing
something? I'm on a Mac OSX and want to try it out. The Splunk or SumoLogic
installs were 10 seconds and I was up and running.

Could someone please point me to a simple guide to:

  1. Install the whole thing: including "LogStash" and "Kibana", because just
    searching is not what I wish to do, I want to make sense of the data and
    therefore dashboarding is important. I couldn't find a simple step by step
    tutorial or guide on the website to install this whole stack. Google turns
    up stuff like this --
    http://red-badger.com/blog/2013/11/08/getting-started-with-elasticsearch/ --
    which is ridiculously dysfunctional. (And I don't want to install "brew"
    just to install simple stuff.)

  2. Secondly, once installed, I'd like to know how to simply get the data
    into the index from:
    a) a MySQL database
    b) a folder with XML files...I want to slurp all the files into the
    index, and then incrementally only get new files in the future
    c) a folder with text log files...and same incremental auto-pickup as (b)
    above

Don't seem to find a simple non-geeky guide to do this. I'm a programmer in
PHP and web technologies (JS etc), and manage my own dedicated Linux
hosting, so not averse to code or commands, but want to find some coherent
and simple guide.

  1. Thirdly, the demo.kibana.org is hideous. It looks like the best way to
    UN-sell this technology. Is there a better place I could see actual Kibana
    in use, you know, with a proper dashboard that doesn't look like a screen
    from The Matrix in dark black? I'm looking for a business dashboard with
    proper dropdown based filters etc. And the ability perhaps to use third
    party libraries such as D3 JS.

Finally, where's the pricing info? Is ElasticSearch completely free?
There's no pricing info anywhere, only the cost of helping out. Is this why
the documentation etc is so poor so that they can charge for helping?

Many thanks for any pointers. I really want to give this a shot.

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(Mark Walkom) #2

ES is free as it's open source.
You might want to take a look here http://logstash.net/docs/1.3.3/learn as
it has a good getting started guide.

Regards,
Mark Walkom

Infrastructure Engineer
Campaign Monitor
email: markw@campaignmonitor.com
web: www.campaignmonitor.com

On 14 February 2014 12:52, Phoenix Kiula phoenix.kiula@gmail.com wrote:

Hi. I'm somewhat familiar with Splunk, because our company invested in it.
Now it's proving to be expensive so we're looking for alternatives. (It's a
super tool though)

ElasticSearch was recommended on Quora. But downloading and trying to
install it is hideous. This seems for tech nerds. Or am I missing
something? I'm on a Mac OSX and want to try it out. The Splunk or SumoLogic
installs were 10 seconds and I was up and running.

Could someone please point me to a simple guide to:

  1. Install the whole thing: including "LogStash" and "Kibana", because
    just searching is not what I wish to do, I want to make sense of the data
    and therefore dashboarding is important. I couldn't find a simple step by
    step tutorial or guide on the website to install this whole stack. Google
    turns up stuff like this --
    http://red-badger.com/blog/2013/11/08/getting-started-with-elasticsearch/ --
    which is ridiculously dysfunctional. (And I don't want to install "brew"
    just to install simple stuff.)

  2. Secondly, once installed, I'd like to know how to simply get the data
    into the index from:
    a) a MySQL database
    b) a folder with XML files...I want to slurp all the files into the
    index, and then incrementally only get new files in the future
    c) a folder with text log files...and same incremental auto-pickup as
    (b) above

Don't seem to find a simple non-geeky guide to do this. I'm a programmer
in PHP and web technologies (JS etc), and manage my own dedicated Linux
hosting, so not averse to code or commands, but want to find some coherent
and simple guide.

  1. Thirdly, the demo.kibana.org is hideous. It looks like the best way to
    UN-sell this technology. Is there a better place I could see actual Kibana
    in use, you know, with a proper dashboard that doesn't look like a screen
    from The Matrix in dark black? I'm looking for a business dashboard with
    proper dropdown based filters etc. And the ability perhaps to use third
    party libraries such as D3 JS.

Finally, where's the pricing info? Is ElasticSearch completely free?
There's no pricing info anywhere, only the cost of helping out. Is this why
the documentation etc is so poor so that they can charge for helping?

Many thanks for any pointers. I really want to give this a shot.

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(Phoenix Kiula) #3

Thank you for this. But that page, including the getting started guide, is
nowhere close to what I requested. I need to install ElasticSearch, then
LogStash and Kibana -- which I understand is the set of tools I need to get
anywhere close to Splunk or SumoLogic. Right? Where's the guide to install
all of them on Mac OSX and start playing around with "localhost", and
coding in PHP?

Apologies if this sounds onerous, but my request is fairly simple and
straightforward even for an open source tool. There's a lot of effort on
the ES website to showcase case studies and whatnot. A bit of effort in
helping people actually get started without a PhD would be great too!

Maybe I'm just missing something.

Thanks

On Friday, February 14, 2014 10:02:24 AM UTC+8, Mark Walkom wrote:

ES is free as it's open source.
You might want to take a look here http://logstash.net/docs/1.3.3/learnas it has a good getting started guide.

Regards,
Mark Walkom

Infrastructure Engineer
Campaign Monitor
email: ma...@campaignmonitor.com <javascript:>
web: www.campaignmonitor.com

On 14 February 2014 12:52, Phoenix Kiula <phoeni...@gmail.com<javascript:>

wrote:

Hi. I'm somewhat familiar with Splunk, because our company invested in
it. Now it's proving to be expensive so we're looking for alternatives.
(It's a super tool though)

ElasticSearch was recommended on Quora. But downloading and trying to
install it is hideous. This seems for tech nerds. Or am I missing
something? I'm on a Mac OSX and want to try it out. The Splunk or SumoLogic
installs were 10 seconds and I was up and running.

Could someone please point me to a simple guide to:

  1. Install the whole thing: including "LogStash" and "Kibana", because
    just searching is not what I wish to do, I want to make sense of the data
    and therefore dashboarding is important. I couldn't find a simple step by
    step tutorial or guide on the website to install this whole stack. Google
    turns up stuff like this --
    http://red-badger.com/blog/2013/11/08/getting-started-with-elasticsearch/ --
    which is ridiculously dysfunctional. (And I don't want to install "brew"
    just to install simple stuff.)

  2. Secondly, once installed, I'd like to know how to simply get the data
    into the index from:
    a) a MySQL database
    b) a folder with XML files...I want to slurp all the files into the
    index, and then incrementally only get new files in the future
    c) a folder with text log files...and same incremental auto-pickup as
    (b) above

Don't seem to find a simple non-geeky guide to do this. I'm a programmer
in PHP and web technologies (JS etc), and manage my own dedicated Linux
hosting, so not averse to code or commands, but want to find some coherent
and simple guide.

  1. Thirdly, the demo.kibana.org is hideous. It looks like the best way
    to UN-sell this technology. Is there a better place I could see actual
    Kibana in use, you know, with a proper dashboard that doesn't look like a
    screen from The Matrix in dark black? I'm looking for a business dashboard
    with proper dropdown based filters etc. And the ability perhaps to use
    third party libraries such as D3 JS.

Finally, where's the pricing info? Is ElasticSearch completely free?
There's no pricing info anywhere, only the cost of helping out. Is this why
the documentation etc is so poor so that they can charge for helping?

Many thanks for any pointers. I really want to give this a shot.

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(Mark Walkom) #4

OS X isn't a fully supported OS, in that there are no pkg's for the 3
components, so you'll have to run the jar/bin's after grabbing the tgz
packages from the site if you want to do it in your native environment.
I'd recommend that you spin up a linux VM and try it in there as it's a
simpler process.

Here's a few run throughs that a search turned up;
https://en.opensuse.org/User:Tsu2/Install_and_Intro_Logstash-Elasticsearch-Kibana
http://www.jaddog.org/2014/01/16/openstack-logstash-elasticsearch-kibana/
http://docs.fluentd.org/articles/free-alternative-to-splunk-by-fluentd
http://www.vmdoh.com/blog/centralizing-logs-lumberjack-logstash-and-elasticsearch

Regards,
Mark Walkom

Infrastructure Engineer
Campaign Monitor
email: markw@campaignmonitor.com
web: www.campaignmonitor.com

On 14 February 2014 13:37, Phoenix Kiula phoenix.kiula@gmail.com wrote:

Thank you for this. But that page, including the getting started guide, is
nowhere close to what I requested. I need to install ElasticSearch, then
LogStash and Kibana -- which I understand is the set of tools I need to get
anywhere close to Splunk or SumoLogic. Right? Where's the guide to install
all of them on Mac OSX and start playing around with "localhost", and
coding in PHP?

Apologies if this sounds onerous, but my request is fairly simple and
straightforward even for an open source tool. There's a lot of effort on
the ES website to showcase case studies and whatnot. A bit of effort in
helping people actually get started without a PhD would be great too!

Maybe I'm just missing something.

Thanks

On Friday, February 14, 2014 10:02:24 AM UTC+8, Mark Walkom wrote:

ES is free as it's open source.
You might want to take a look here http://logstash.net/docs/1.3.3/learnas it has a good getting started guide.

Regards,
Mark Walkom

Infrastructure Engineer
Campaign Monitor
email: ma...@campaignmonitor.com
web: www.campaignmonitor.com

On 14 February 2014 12:52, Phoenix Kiula phoeni...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi. I'm somewhat familiar with Splunk, because our company invested in
it. Now it's proving to be expensive so we're looking for alternatives.
(It's a super tool though)

ElasticSearch was recommended on Quora. But downloading and trying to
install it is hideous. This seems for tech nerds. Or am I missing
something? I'm on a Mac OSX and want to try it out. The Splunk or SumoLogic
installs were 10 seconds and I was up and running.

Could someone please point me to a simple guide to:

  1. Install the whole thing: including "LogStash" and "Kibana", because
    just searching is not what I wish to do, I want to make sense of the data
    and therefore dashboarding is important. I couldn't find a simple step by
    step tutorial or guide on the website to install this whole stack. Google
    turns up stuff like this -- http://red-badger.com/blog/
    2013/11/08/getting-started-with-elasticsearch/ -- which is ridiculously
    dysfunctional. (And I don't want to install "brew" just to install simple
    stuff.)

  2. Secondly, once installed, I'd like to know how to simply get the data
    into the index from:
    a) a MySQL database
    b) a folder with XML files...I want to slurp all the files into the
    index, and then incrementally only get new files in the future
    c) a folder with text log files...and same incremental auto-pickup as
    (b) above

Don't seem to find a simple non-geeky guide to do this. I'm a programmer
in PHP and web technologies (JS etc), and manage my own dedicated Linux
hosting, so not averse to code or commands, but want to find some coherent
and simple guide.

  1. Thirdly, the demo.kibana.org is hideous. It looks like the best way
    to UN-sell this technology. Is there a better place I could see actual
    Kibana in use, you know, with a proper dashboard that doesn't look like a
    screen from The Matrix in dark black? I'm looking for a business dashboard
    with proper dropdown based filters etc. And the ability perhaps to use
    third party libraries such as D3 JS.

Finally, where's the pricing info? Is ElasticSearch completely free?
There's no pricing info anywhere, only the cost of helping out. Is this why
the documentation etc is so poor so that they can charge for helping?

Many thanks for any pointers. I really want to give this a shot.

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(Jörg Prante) #5

Please, I'd like to forward you to the nice Elasticsearch company to ask
them if they can provide the service you request, for example, something
like a native Mac OS X dmg package of the ELK stack, with OOTB experience.

I'm quite sure they have something like this in the pipeline, because
expectations are getting higher and higher.

The community mailinglist can help if you have questions about
Elasticsearch. Elasticsearch is not a Splunk replacement but a search
engine that can power such platforms. Many apps can be added to ES, and
Splunk-like apps are just one possibility. Don't be annoyed because you
just tried to install the backbone of a whole platform.

If your question 2a) about MySQL is separate from this, you could try the
JDBC river plugin I wrote.

It is built to pull quickly DB result sets out of any JDBC source with SQL
statements and index JSON documents into Elasticsearch, without deeper
knowledge of programming JDBC or ES. It's ideal to get some feet wet for
PoCs and live showcases. It's not a full-fledged solution for every use
case though. You are free to adapt the JDBC river to your needs, it's open
source.

There are other river plugins or solutions available for question 2b) and
2c) like for example http://www.scrutmydocs.org/

As you have noticed, there is no pricing info about Elasticsearch. It's
source code is licensed with Apache License 2.0 and it is free to download,
compile, modify, and distribute. That means, you can build your business
around it, build dashboards as you like etc.

Ask the company for service, I'm sure they can help you.

Jörg

On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 2:52 AM, Phoenix Kiula phoenix.kiula@gmail.comwrote:

Hi. I'm somewhat familiar with Splunk, because our company invested in it.
Now it's proving to be expensive so we're looking for alternatives. (It's a
super tool though)

ElasticSearch was recommended on Quora. But downloading and trying to
install it is hideous. This seems for tech nerds. Or am I missing
something? I'm on a Mac OSX and want to try it out. The Splunk or SumoLogic
installs were 10 seconds and I was up and running.

Could someone please point me to a simple guide to:

  1. Install the whole thing: including "LogStash" and "Kibana", because
    just searching is not what I wish to do, I want to make sense of the data
    and therefore dashboarding is important. I couldn't find a simple step by
    step tutorial or guide on the website to install this whole stack. Google
    turns up stuff like this --
    http://red-badger.com/blog/2013/11/08/getting-started-with-elasticsearch/ --
    which is ridiculously dysfunctional. (And I don't want to install "brew"
    just to install simple stuff.)

  2. Secondly, once installed, I'd like to know how to simply get the data
    into the index from:
    a) a MySQL database
    b) a folder with XML files...I want to slurp all the files into the
    index, and then incrementally only get new files in the future
    c) a folder with text log files...and same incremental auto-pickup as
    (b) above

Don't seem to find a simple non-geeky guide to do this. I'm a programmer
in PHP and web technologies (JS etc), and manage my own dedicated Linux
hosting, so not averse to code or commands, but want to find some coherent
and simple guide.

  1. Thirdly, the demo.kibana.org is hideous. It looks like the best way to
    UN-sell this technology. Is there a better place I could see actual Kibana
    in use, you know, with a proper dashboard that doesn't look like a screen
    from The Matrix in dark black? I'm looking for a business dashboard with
    proper dropdown based filters etc. And the ability perhaps to use third
    party libraries such as D3 JS.

Finally, where's the pricing info? Is ElasticSearch completely free?
There's no pricing info anywhere, only the cost of helping out. Is this why
the documentation etc is so poor so that they can charge for helping?

Many thanks for any pointers. I really want to give this a shot.

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(Tony Su) #6

Hello,
I've updated the info on my page which contains fairly old info (approx. ES
0.90.3)
https://en.opensuse.org/User:Tsu2/Install_and_Intro_Logstash-Elasticsearch-Kibanahttps://en.opensuse.org/User:Tsu2/Install_and_Intro_Logstash-Elasticsearch-Kibana
to
http://en.opensuse.org/User:Tsu2/elasticsearch_1.0#Running_Logstash

In the new, updated page I "preview" the content in the Logstash tutorials.

Some stuff I cover
The different options how to install and run Logstash, Elasticsearch,
Kibana for the tutorials
Breaks out a number of items which are often shown in the tutorials but
with no description or highlighting. Stuff that's easy to overlook or
confuse.

As Mark describes,
Since no install pattern has been created for running on OSX, it's still
fairly simple to invoke all three apps by running only Logstash or
downloading and running the jar files. Jar files can be run from any
location simply by command (no installation). You only need a suitable Java
JRE (Oracle or openJDK 1.7 ordinarily should be sufficient).

Tony

On Thursday, February 13, 2014 6:59:27 PM UTC-8, Mark Walkom wrote:

OS X isn't a fully supported OS, in that there are no pkg's for the 3
components, so you'll have to run the jar/bin's after grabbing the tgz
packages from the site if you want to do it in your native environment.
I'd recommend that you spin up a linux VM and try it in there as it's a
simpler process.
Here's a few run throughs that a search turned up;

https://en.opensuse.org/User:Tsu2/Install_and_Intro_Logstash-Elasticsearch-Kibana
http://www.jaddog.org/2014/01/16/openstack-logstash-elasticsearch-kibana/
http://docs.fluentd.org/articles/free-alternative-to-splunk-by-fluentd

http://www.vmdoh.com/blog/centralizing-logs-lumberjack-logstash-and-elasticsearch

Regards,
Mark Walkom

Infrastructure Engineer
Campaign Monitor
email: ma...@campaignmonitor.com <javascript:>
web: www.campaignmonitor.com

On 14 February 2014 13:37, Phoenix Kiula <phoeni...@gmail.com<javascript:>

wrote:

Thank you for this. But that page, including the getting started guide,
is nowhere close to what I requested. I need to install ElasticSearch, then
LogStash and Kibana -- which I understand is the set of tools I need to get
anywhere close to Splunk or SumoLogic. Right? Where's the guide to install
all of them on Mac OSX and start playing around with "localhost", and
coding in PHP?

Apologies if this sounds onerous, but my request is fairly simple and
straightforward even for an open source tool. There's a lot of effort on
the ES website to showcase case studies and whatnot. A bit of effort in
helping people actually get started without a PhD would be great too!

Maybe I'm just missing something.

Thanks

On Friday, February 14, 2014 10:02:24 AM UTC+8, Mark Walkom wrote:

ES is free as it's open source.
You might want to take a look here http://logstash.net/docs/1.3.3/learnas it has a good getting started guide.

Regards,
Mark Walkom

Infrastructure Engineer
Campaign Monitor
email: ma...@campaignmonitor.com
web: www.campaignmonitor.com

On 14 February 2014 12:52, Phoenix Kiula phoeni...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi. I'm somewhat familiar with Splunk, because our company invested in
it. Now it's proving to be expensive so we're looking for alternatives.
(It's a super tool though)

ElasticSearch was recommended on Quora. But downloading and trying to
install it is hideous. This seems for tech nerds. Or am I missing
something? I'm on a Mac OSX and want to try it out. The Splunk or SumoLogic
installs were 10 seconds and I was up and running.

Could someone please point me to a simple guide to:

  1. Install the whole thing: including "LogStash" and "Kibana", because
    just searching is not what I wish to do, I want to make sense of the data
    and therefore dashboarding is important. I couldn't find a simple step by
    step tutorial or guide on the website to install this whole stack. Google
    turns up stuff like this -- http://red-badger.com/blog/
    2013/11/08/getting-started-with-elasticsearch/ -- which is
    ridiculously dysfunctional. (And I don't want to install "brew" just to
    install simple stuff.)

  2. Secondly, once installed, I'd like to know how to simply get the
    data into the index from:
    a) a MySQL database
    b) a folder with XML files...I want to slurp all the files into the
    index, and then incrementally only get new files in the future
    c) a folder with text log files...and same incremental auto-pickup as
    (b) above

Don't seem to find a simple non-geeky guide to do this. I'm a
programmer in PHP and web technologies (JS etc), and manage my own
dedicated Linux hosting, so not averse to code or commands, but want to
find some coherent and simple guide.

  1. Thirdly, the demo.kibana.org is hideous. It looks like the best way
    to UN-sell this technology. Is there a better place I could see actual
    Kibana in use, you know, with a proper dashboard that doesn't look like a
    screen from The Matrix in dark black? I'm looking for a business dashboard
    with proper dropdown based filters etc. And the ability perhaps to use
    third party libraries such as D3 JS.

Finally, where's the pricing info? Is ElasticSearch completely free?
There's no pricing info anywhere, only the cost of helping out. Is this why
the documentation etc is so poor so that they can charge for helping?

Many thanks for any pointers. I really want to give this a shot.

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