Heya, you can easily download Marvel and run Sense as a standalone app from Marvel. In the next version of Marvel, we will make it even simpler, in which case, even users that don't run Chrome (like myself ) can more easily enjoy it.
+1 from me to this sentiment too, Sense as a standalone app is awesome.
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On 1 April 2014 19:59, Nicholas Summerlin nicholas.summerlin@gmail.com wrote:
I agree with Itamar. I'm a recent Elasticsearch user and Sense made it easier for me to learn the query syntax. I recommend it to all ES beginners. I only learned of Marvel later.
+1 for keeping the Chrome plugin on the Web Store, perhaps with a disclaimer that it's incomplete and no longer maintained.
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On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 10:51 AM, Itamar Syn-Hershko itamar@code972.com wrote:
Boaz,
Sense is a must-have tool for any developer playing with Elasticsearch, at least in my opinion. I use it daily to quickly sketch and test modeling ideas, or just to prove a point. This is also the first thing I ask my customers to install whenever I give on-site consults.
I'd ask you and Elasticsearch to continue releasing Sense as a chrome plugin that we can install and use. Even if it gets updated less frequently, it's still an awesome tool and 80% is better than nothing.
You can't rely on having Marvel installed for using Sense - it's an additional install step, and many remote staging/prod clusters don't have it installed. Sense is really great as a client-side independent thing.
You can quote me on that: working with Elasticsearch is not the same without Sense available as a Chrome plugin.
For your consideration,
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On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Boaz Leskes b.leskes@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Tim, Ivan,
Sense, the chrome extension, was started a hobby project of mine. I did it in my spare time - I actually started it to prove it can be done in a weekend ;). As you know Sense is part of Marvel now where it will be professionally developed and get way more time and love. The github repo is not maintained anymore and the code as published on GitHub will not be developed further. I've updated the readme to make that more clear.
As Tim noted, the Chrome extension has known bugs and does not support all of 1.0's features (like Aggregations). Since bug fixes are all going forward in Marvel, I've decided to remove the plugin from the Chrome Web Store so new users will not have a bad initial experience.
I (and many others) am always happy to answer any questions/issue regard Marvel on the mailing list. If you find any issue, please post it and it will be picked up. I know you both know this as we interacted before, but I wanted to say again for anyone else that might read this in the future.
Cheers,
Boaz
On Friday, March 28, 2014 5:19:38 PM UTC+1, Ivan Brusic wrote:
I would have suggested opening an issue on Github to clarify the license, but issues are disabled on the repo. I agree that Sense is a fantastic tool. I deploy apps using the Java API, but I formulate my thoughts and queries beforehand with Sense. Beforehand I was just using straight curl commands.
Boaz is a regular on the mailing list, he probably will chime in soon.
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On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 8:40 AM, Tim S timstibbs@gmail.com wrote:
Yeah, I cloned it locally in case it disappears and it seems to work perfectly well standalone or as an elasticsearch plugin - IMO it doesn't really need to be a chrome extension. But I guess its usefulness if limited if dev has stopped and the auto-complete isn't kept up-to-date with the elasticsearch api.
Also if I recommended my clients used it (which I would, because it's one of the better rest front ends for ES I've come across because of the auto-complete) then they'd want to know whether they were actually allowed to use it i.e. what licence it is.
On Friday, March 28, 2014 2:50:04 PM UTC, Ivan Brusic wrote:
I just forked it i case it goes away. I haven't built a Chrome extension in years. Let me re-figure out how to do it and update my fork with build/local installation instructions.
The lack of a license might be problematic since default copyright provisions apply: Redirecting…
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On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 1:37 AM, Tim S tims...@gmail.com wrote:
I notice that GitHub - bleskes/sense: A JSON aware developer's interface to Elasticsearch. Comes with handy machinery such as syntax highlighting, autocomplete, formatting and code folding. has a message saying "The development of Sense has moved into Elasticsearch Marvel".
Does this mean that no further development will happen on github? I.e. if the Marvel team find bugs in sense will the fixes be pushed to the sense on github, and if I create a pull request on github will my fix find its way into the version of sense included in Marvel?
Regardless of the answer to the above, does the code on github have any kind of licence? Even without Marvel, sense is still a useful tool.
Thanks.
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