New version of Kibana in the works?

Antonio_Augusto_Sant · August 12, 2014, 4:44pm

This one is for the devs, and Rashid in special: there is any new version
of Kibana in the works?
I'm asking this because I'm about to start a project in my company for log
management, and there are some requisites to it (user separation, event
correlation, histogram to compare two values, and so on).

So, any changes of these functionalities landing on Kibana 4.0?

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jmkgreen · August 13, 2014, 10:05am

There's been nothing since 13 Jun according to Github. Most disappointing,
lots of people waiting for their PRs to be attended to.

On 12 August 2014 17:44, Antonio Augusto Santos mkhaos7@gmail.com wrote:

This one is for the devs, and Rashid in special: there is any new version
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I'm asking this because I'm about to start a project in my company for log
management, and there are some requisites to it (user separation, event
correlation, histogram to compare two values, and so on).

So, any changes of these functionalities landing on Kibana 4.0?

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Jay_Swan · August 13, 2014, 3:27pm

When I took the Core Elasticsearch class last week, someone from
Elasticsearch said that Kibana 4.0 is in the works but is at least a couple
of months away from release. There wasn't any real detail on features,
other than to say that it is a complete rewrite that tries to expose as
much native Elasticsearch query functionality as possible.

I was also told that most security-related features will be released in a
commercial "security module" for Elasticsearch that will have a non-trivial
cost associated with it. I don't know if this includes role-based access
control or not.

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This one is for the devs, and Rashid in special: there is any new version
of Kibana in the works?
I'm asking this because I'm about to start a project in my company for log
management, and there are some requisites to it (user separation, event
correlation, histogram to compare two values, and so on).

So, any changes of these functionalities landing on Kibana 4.0?

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Antonio_Augusto_San1 · August 13, 2014, 3:33pm

Thanks Jay!
These are very interesting info.

Hope something official come out. And that Kibana 4 is open source as
well...

On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Jay Swan sanjuanswan@gmail.com wrote:

When I took the Core Elasticsearch class last week, someone from
Elasticsearch said that Kibana 4.0 is in the works but is at least a couple
of months away from release. There wasn't any real detail on features,
other than to say that it is a complete rewrite that tries to expose as
much native Elasticsearch query functionality as possible.

I was also told that most security-related features will be released in a
commercial "security module" for Elasticsearch that will have a non-trivial
cost associated with it. I don't know if this includes role-based access
control or not.

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of Kibana in the works?
I'm asking this because I'm about to start a project in my company for
log management, and there are some requisites to it (user separation, event
correlation, histogram to compare two values, and so on).

So, any changes of these functionalities landing on Kibana 4.0?

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jmkgreen · August 14, 2014, 2:54pm

If Kibana 4 is not using the existing code base then perhaps someone needs
to reject a whole pile of pull requests as they are a lot waiting.

Not quite the way I'd expect an open source project to progress either.

On 13 August 2014 16:33, Antonio Augusto Santos aaugusto.santos@gmail.com
wrote:

Thanks Jay!
These are very interesting info.

Hope something official come out. And that Kibana 4 is open source as
well...

On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Jay Swan sanjuanswan@gmail.com wrote:

When I took the Core Elasticsearch class last week, someone from
Elasticsearch said that Kibana 4.0 is in the works but is at least a couple
of months away from release. There wasn't any real detail on features,
other than to say that it is a complete rewrite that tries to expose as
much native Elasticsearch query functionality as possible.

I was also told that most security-related features will be released in a
commercial "security module" for Elasticsearch that will have a non-trivial
cost associated with it. I don't know if this includes role-based access
control or not.

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This one is for the devs, and Rashid in special: there is any new
version of Kibana in the works?
I'm asking this because I'm about to start a project in my company for
log management, and there are some requisites to it (user separation, event
correlation, histogram to compare two values, and so on).

So, any changes of these functionalities landing on Kibana 4.0?

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chenryn · August 14, 2014, 4:00pm

So we need watch the issue list and then merge other’s commit to own repo by hand?

在 2014年8月14日，下午10:54，James Green james.mk.green@gmail.com 写道：

If Kibana 4 is not using the existing code base then perhaps someone needs to reject a whole pile of pull requests as they are a lot waiting.

Not quite the way I'd expect an open source project to progress either.

On 13 August 2014 16:33, Antonio Augusto Santos aaugusto.santos@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks Jay!
These are very interesting info.

Hope something official come out. And that Kibana 4 is open source as well...

On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Jay Swan sanjuanswan@gmail.com wrote:
When I took the Core Elasticsearch class last week, someone from Elasticsearch said that Kibana 4.0 is in the works but is at least a couple of months away from release. There wasn't any real detail on features, other than to say that it is a complete rewrite that tries to expose as much native Elasticsearch query functionality as possible.

I was also told that most security-related features will be released in a commercial "security module" for Elasticsearch that will have a non-trivial cost associated with it. I don't know if this includes role-based access control or not.

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This one is for the devs, and Rashid in special: there is any new version of Kibana in the works?
I'm asking this because I'm about to start a project in my company for log management, and there are some requisites to it (user separation, event correlation, histogram to compare two values, and so on).

So, any changes of these functionalities landing on Kibana 4.0?

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Rashid_Khan1 · August 14, 2014, 4:04pm

Yes there is a new version in the works.

Elasticsearch has grown considerably in the last 18 months. With
Elasticsearch 1.0, and the introduction of aggregations, we quickly
realized we needed a better platform for building more powerful interfaces.
So for the last few months we've been head down, working to polish Kibana 4
to the point where we can collect feedback and contributions.

We've left lots of pull requests open for a couple reasons: For the
community to pull into their own fork if needed, and for our own
inspiration. When someone submits code it says "I really want this!". Even
if the code doesn't get merged, we take it very seriously. Once we push out
the first preview of Kibana 4 we'll be cleaning up lots of pull requests
for features we're implemented.

As for the features you're looking for: User separation and event
correlation are things we're looking to do in Elasticsearch. Multi-value
metric aggregations are a feature I'm looking forward to in Kibana. It
will, of course, be open source.

On Tuesday, August 12, 2014 9:44:55 AM UTC-7, Antonio Augusto Santos wrote:

This one is for the devs, and Rashid in special: there is any new version
of Kibana in the works?
I'm asking this because I'm about to start a project in my company for log
management, and there are some requisites to it (user separation, event
correlation, histogram to compare two values, and so on).

So, any changes of these functionalities landing on Kibana 4.0?

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Antonio_Augusto_Sant · August 14, 2014, 5:22pm

Thanks a lot for the update Rashid.
I know it might be too much but... any dates we can mark on out calendar?

On Thursday, August 14, 2014 1:04:24 PM UTC-3, Rashid Khan wrote:

Yes there is a new version in the works.

Elasticsearch has grown considerably in the last 18 months. With
Elasticsearch 1.0, and the introduction of aggregations, we quickly
realized we needed a better platform for building more powerful interfaces.
So for the last few months we've been head down, working to polish Kibana 4
to the point where we can collect feedback and contributions.

We've left lots of pull requests open for a couple reasons: For the
community to pull into their own fork if needed, and for our own
inspiration. When someone submits code it says "I really want this!". Even
if the code doesn't get merged, we take it very seriously. Once we push out
the first preview of Kibana 4 we'll be cleaning up lots of pull requests
for features we're implemented.

As for the features you're looking for: User separation and event
correlation are things we're looking to do in Elasticsearch. Multi-value
metric aggregations are a feature I'm looking forward to in Kibana. It
will, of course, be open source.

On Tuesday, August 12, 2014 9:44:55 AM UTC-7, Antonio Augusto Santos wrote:

This one is for the devs, and Rashid in special: there is any new version
of Kibana in the works?
I'm asking this because I'm about to start a project in my company for
log management, and there are some requisites to it (user separation, event
correlation, histogram to compare two values, and so on).

So, any changes of these functionalities landing on Kibana 4.0?

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Julien_Palard · August 28, 2014, 9:44am

Hi

Le jeudi 14 août 2014 18:04:24 UTC+2, Rashid Khan a écrit :

Yes there is a new version in the works.

[...] So for the last few months we've been head down, working to polish
Kibana 4

We're using more and more kibana here, and started modifying things here
and here, starting also to think about pull requests before discovering
there's a kibana 4 on the tracks. So we'd love to hear about kibana 4, like
release date and/or release of source, so we can contribute in the right
direction / on the right repo.

Bests.

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Asimov4 · September 17, 2014, 10:22pm

We would definitely love even a rough ETA. Will it be October? End of the
year? In 2015?

Also will Kibana 4 be backwards compatible for panels?

On Thursday, August 28, 2014 2:44:18 AM UTC-7, Julien Palard wrote:

Hi

Le jeudi 14 août 2014 18:04:24 UTC+2, Rashid Khan a écrit :

Yes there is a new version in the works.

[...] So for the last few months we've been head down, working to polish
Kibana 4

We're using more and more kibana here, and started modifying things here
and here, starting also to think about pull requests before discovering
there's a kibana 4 on the tracks. So we'd love to hear about kibana 4, like
release date and/or release of source, so we can contribute in the right
direction / on the right repo.

Bests.

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Rashid_Khan1 · September 17, 2014, 10:37pm

Unfortunately I can’t give you an ETA other than soon

Initially backwards compatibility will not be available as there have been a large number of core changes. We’re looking at providing a compatibility layer to ease the transition, but there are some challenges there.

On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 10:22 AM, Antonio Augusto Santos
mkhaos7@gmail.com wrote:

Thanks a lot for the update Rashid.
I know it might be too much but... any dates we can mark on out calendar?
On Thursday, August 14, 2014 1:04:24 PM UTC-3, Rashid Khan wrote:

Yes there is a new version in the works.

Elasticsearch has grown considerably in the last 18 months. With
Elasticsearch 1.0, and the introduction of aggregations, we quickly
realized we needed a better platform for building more powerful interfaces.
So for the last few months we've been head down, working to polish Kibana 4
to the point where we can collect feedback and contributions.

We've left lots of pull requests open for a couple reasons: For the
community to pull into their own fork if needed, and for our own
inspiration. When someone submits code it says "I really want this!". Even
if the code doesn't get merged, we take it very seriously. Once we push out
the first preview of Kibana 4 we'll be cleaning up lots of pull requests
for features we're implemented.

As for the features you're looking for: User separation and event
correlation are things we're looking to do in Elasticsearch. Multi-value
metric aggregations are a feature I'm looking forward to in Kibana. It
will, of course, be open source.

On Tuesday, August 12, 2014 9:44:55 AM UTC-7, Antonio Augusto Santos wrote:

This one is for the devs, and Rashid in special: there is any new version
of Kibana in the works?
I'm asking this because I'm about to start a project in my company for
log management, and there are some requisites to it (user separation, event
correlation, histogram to compare two values, and so on).

So, any changes of these functionalities landing on Kibana 4.0?

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Julien_Palard_2 · September 19, 2014, 9:46am

Hi Rashid !

On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 12:37 AM, Rashid Khan
rashid.khan@elasticsearch.com wrote:

Unfortunately I can’t give you an ETA other than soon

Will you communicate on Kibana 4 in the meantime, like a kind of
changelog overview ? And will the source be available ? Before release
? After release ? Now ? Never ?

TL;DR: We want to contribute, but we're in the dark )o:

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Doug_Nelson · September 19, 2014, 11:34pm

Thanks for the update Rashid.

It would be really great to get a look at the early bits. We are just
starting to use es and so backwards compatibility would not be an issue.

Thanks

Doug

On Wednesday, September 17, 2014 5:37:59 PM UTC-5, Rashid Khan wrote:

Unfortunately I can’t give you an ETA other than soon

Initially backwards compatibility will not be available as there have been
a large number of core changes. We’re looking at providing a compatibility
layer to ease the transition, but there are some challenges there.

On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 10:22 AM, Antonio Augusto Santos <mkh...@gmail.com
<javascript:>> wrote:

Thanks a lot for the update Rashid.
I know it might be too much but... any dates we can mark on out calendar?

On Thursday, August 14, 2014 1:04:24 PM UTC-3, Rashid Khan wrote:

Yes there is a new version in the works.

Elasticsearch has grown considerably in the last 18 months. With
Elasticsearch 1.0, and the introduction of aggregations, we quickly
realized we needed a better platform for building more powerful interfaces.
So for the last few months we've been head down, working to polish Kibana 4
to the point where we can collect feedback and contributions.

We've left lots of pull requests open for a couple reasons: For the
community to pull into their own fork if needed, and for our own
inspiration. When someone submits code it says "I really want this!". Even
if the code doesn't get merged, we take it very seriously. Once we push out
the first preview of Kibana 4 we'll be cleaning up lots of pull requests
for features we're implemented.

As for the features you're looking for: User separation and event
correlation are things we're looking to do in Elasticsearch. Multi-value
metric aggregations are a feature I'm looking forward to in Kibana. It
will, of course, be open source.

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I'm asking this because I'm about to start a project in my company for
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jmkgreen · September 22, 2014, 4:13pm

Those forking kibana on github and issuing a pull request - is their effort
in vain?

On 17 September 2014 23:37, Rashid Khan rashid.khan@elasticsearch.com
wrote:

Unfortunately I can’t give you an ETA other than soon

Initially backwards compatibility will not be available as there have been
a large number of core changes. We’re looking at providing a compatibility
layer to ease the transition, but there are some challenges there.

On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 10:22 AM, Antonio Augusto Santos <
mkhaos7@gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks a lot for the update Rashid.
I know it might be too much but... any dates we can mark on out calendar?

On Thursday, August 14, 2014 1:04:24 PM UTC-3, Rashid Khan wrote:

Yes there is a new version in the works.

Elasticsearch has grown considerably in the last 18 months. With
Elasticsearch 1.0, and the introduction of aggregations, we quickly
realized we needed a better platform for building more powerful interfaces.
So for the last few months we've been head down, working to polish Kibana 4
to the point where we can collect feedback and contributions.

We've left lots of pull requests open for a couple reasons: For the
community to pull into their own fork if needed, and for our own
inspiration. When someone submits code it says "I really want this!". Even
if the code doesn't get merged, we take it very seriously. Once we push out
the first preview of Kibana 4 we'll be cleaning up lots of pull requests
for features we're implemented.

As for the features you're looking for: User separation and event
correlation are things we're looking to do in Elasticsearch. Multi-value
metric aggregations are a feature I'm looking forward to in Kibana. It
will, of course, be open source.

On Tuesday, August 12, 2014 9:44:55 AM UTC-7, Antonio Augusto Santos
wrote:

This one is for the devs, and Rashid in special: there is any new
version of Kibana in the works?
I'm asking this because I'm about to start a project in my company for
log management, and there are some requisites to it (user separation, event
correlation, histogram to compare two values, and so on).

So, any changes of these functionalities landing on Kibana 4.0?

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Asimov4 · October 3, 2014, 5:55am

Noted!

What is the best way to be informed as soon as Kibana 4 is released? Can we
subscribe to a mailing list?

Thanks a lot for the amazing tool that you are building. Looking forward to
being able to contribute again.

On Wednesday, September 17, 2014 3:37:59 PM UTC-7, Rashid Khan wrote:

Unfortunately I can’t give you an ETA other than soon

Initially backwards compatibility will not be available as there have been
a large number of core changes. We’re looking at providing a compatibility
layer to ease the transition, but there are some challenges there.

On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 10:22 AM, Antonio Augusto Santos <mkh...@gmail.com
<javascript:>> wrote:

Thanks a lot for the update Rashid.
I know it might be too much but... any dates we can mark on out calendar?

On Thursday, August 14, 2014 1:04:24 PM UTC-3, Rashid Khan wrote:

Yes there is a new version in the works.

Elasticsearch has grown considerably in the last 18 months. With
Elasticsearch 1.0, and the introduction of aggregations, we quickly
realized we needed a better platform for building more powerful interfaces.
So for the last few months we've been head down, working to polish Kibana 4
to the point where we can collect feedback and contributions.

We've left lots of pull requests open for a couple reasons: For the
community to pull into their own fork if needed, and for our own
inspiration. When someone submits code it says "I really want this!". Even
if the code doesn't get merged, we take it very seriously. Once we push out
the first preview of Kibana 4 we'll be cleaning up lots of pull requests
for features we're implemented.

As for the features you're looking for: User separation and event
correlation are things we're looking to do in Elasticsearch. Multi-value
metric aggregations are a feature I'm looking forward to in Kibana. It
will, of course, be open source.

On Tuesday, August 12, 2014 9:44:55 AM UTC-7, Antonio Augusto Santos
wrote:

This one is for the devs, and Rashid in special: there is any new
version of Kibana in the works?
I'm asking this because I'm about to start a project in my company for
log management, and there are some requisites to it (user separation, event
correlation, histogram to compare two values, and so on).

So, any changes of these functionalities landing on Kibana 4.0?

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dadoonet · October 3, 2014, 6:38am

May be following elasticsearch Twitter account ?

Envoyé de mon iPad

Le 3 oct. 2014 à 07:55, Thibaut Labarre asimov4@gmail.com a écrit :

Noted!

What is the best way to be informed as soon as Kibana 4 is released? Can we subscribe to a mailing list?

Thanks a lot for the amazing tool that you are building. Looking forward to being able to contribute again.

On Wednesday, September 17, 2014 3:37:59 PM UTC-7, Rashid Khan wrote:
Unfortunately I can’t give you an ETA other than soon

Initially backwards compatibility will not be available as there have been a large number of core changes. We’re looking at providing a compatibility layer to ease the transition, but there are some challenges there.

On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 10:22 AM, Antonio Augusto Santos mkh...@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks a lot for the update Rashid.
I know it might be too much but... any dates we can mark on out calendar?

On Thursday, August 14, 2014 1:04:24 PM UTC-3, Rashid Khan wrote:
Yes there is a new version in the works.

Elasticsearch has grown considerably in the last 18 months. With Elasticsearch 1.0, and the introduction of aggregations, we quickly realized we needed a better platform for building more powerful interfaces. So for the last few months we've been head down, working to polish Kibana 4 to the point where we can collect feedback and contributions.

We've left lots of pull requests open for a couple reasons: For the community to pull into their own fork if needed, and for our own inspiration. When someone submits code it says "I really want this!". Even if the code doesn't get merged, we take it very seriously. Once we push out the first preview of Kibana 4 we'll be cleaning up lots of pull requests for features we're implemented.

As for the features you're looking for: User separation and event correlation are things we're looking to do in Elasticsearch. Multi-value metric aggregations are a feature I'm looking forward to in Kibana. It will, of course, be open source.

On Tuesday, August 12, 2014 9:44:55 AM UTC-7, Antonio Augusto Santos wrote:
This one is for the devs, and Rashid in special: there is any new version of Kibana in the works?
I'm asking this because I'm about to start a project in my company for log management, and there are some requisites to it (user separation, event correlation, histogram to compare two values, and so on).

So, any changes of these functionalities landing on Kibana 4.0?

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Asimov4 · October 6, 2014, 4:40pm

Thanks! Looks like Kibana 4.0.0-BETA1 is out:

On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 11:38 PM, David Pilato david@pilato.fr wrote:

May be following elasticsearch Twitter account ?

Envoyé de mon iPad

Le 3 oct. 2014 à 07:55, Thibaut Labarre asimov4@gmail.com a écrit :

Noted!

What is the best way to be informed as soon as Kibana 4 is released? Can
we subscribe to a mailing list?

Thanks a lot for the amazing tool that you are building. Looking forward
to being able to contribute again.

On Wednesday, September 17, 2014 3:37:59 PM UTC-7, Rashid Khan wrote:

Unfortunately I can’t give you an ETA other than soon

Initially backwards compatibility will not be available as there have
been a large number of core changes. We’re looking at providing a
compatibility layer to ease the transition, but there are some challenges
there.

On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 10:22 AM, Antonio Augusto Santos <
mkh...@gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks a lot for the update Rashid.
I know it might be too much but... any dates we can mark on out
calendar?

On Thursday, August 14, 2014 1:04:24 PM UTC-3, Rashid Khan wrote:

Yes there is a new version in the works.

Elasticsearch has grown considerably in the last 18 months. With
Elasticsearch 1.0, and the introduction of aggregations, we quickly
realized we needed a better platform for building more powerful interfaces.
So for the last few months we've been head down, working to polish Kibana 4
to the point where we can collect feedback and contributions.

We've left lots of pull requests open for a couple reasons: For the
community to pull into their own fork if needed, and for our own
inspiration. When someone submits code it says "I really want this!". Even
if the code doesn't get merged, we take it very seriously. Once we push out
the first preview of Kibana 4 we'll be cleaning up lots of pull requests
for features we're implemented.

As for the features you're looking for: User separation and event
correlation are things we're looking to do in Elasticsearch. Multi-value
metric aggregations are a feature I'm looking forward to in Kibana. It
will, of course, be open source.

On Tuesday, August 12, 2014 9:44:55 AM UTC-7, Antonio Augusto Santos
wrote:

This one is for the devs, and Rashid in special: there is any new
version of Kibana in the works?
I'm asking this because I'm about to start a project in my company for
log management, and there are some requisites to it (user separation, event
correlation, histogram to compare two values, and so on).

So, any changes of these functionalities landing on Kibana 4.0?

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