Is it safe to change node names in an existing ElasticSearch cluster

Hi !

Is it safe to change the node names of my 3 nodes in an existing
elasticsearch 1.4.0 cluster ?

The reason is to get rid of the random names like: Elizabeth "Betsy"
Braddock, Franz Kafka, etc...

Is it just to set the node.name: "server name" in elasticsearch.yml and
then restart the daemon ?
Do I do it one node at the time, or do I need down the cluster and then
change all node names, and then bring up the cluster again ?

//Jan-Erik

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Yes. It’s safe.
You can do it one at a time.

If you already have data around and don’t want your shards moving during this, you should disable allocation.

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Le 18 févr. 2015 à 16:14, Jan-Erik Westlund je.westlund@gmail.com a écrit :

Hi !

Is it safe to change the node names of my 3 nodes in an existing elasticsearch 1.4.0 cluster ?

The reason is to get rid of the random names like: Elizabeth "Betsy" Braddock, Franz Kafka, etc...

Is it just to set the node.name: "server name" in elasticsearch.yml and then restart the daemon ?
Do I do it one node at the time, or do I need down the cluster and then change all node names, and then bring up the cluster again ?

//Jan-Erik

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Thanks David !

All my "Recovery Throttling settings" are default in the elasticsearch.yml
file.
How do I disable allocation, in a running production environment ?
Do I need to disable allocation first, restart each node / daemon, and
after rename the nodes ?

Or maybe it would be better to down the ES cluster (all 3 nodes) during a
maintenance windows, change all names, and then restart the ES cluster
nodes again ?

//Jan-Erik

Den onsdag 18 februari 2015 kl. 16:18:42 UTC+1 skrev David Pilato:

Yes. It’s safe.
You can do it one at a time.

If you already have data around and don’t want your shards moving during
this, you should disable allocation.

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Le 18 févr. 2015 à 16:14, Jan-Erik Westlund <je.we...@gmail.com
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Hi !

Is it safe to change the node names of my 3 nodes in an existing
elasticsearch 1.4.0 cluster ?

The reason is to get rid of the random names like: Elizabeth "Betsy"
Braddock, Franz Kafka, etc...

Is it just to set the node.name: "server name" in elasticsearch.yml and
then restart the daemon ?
Do I do it one node at the time, or do I need down the cluster and then
change all node names, and then bring up the cluster again ?

//Jan-Erik

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Have a look at Elasticsearch Platform — Find real-time answers at scale | Elastic http://www.elasticsearch.org/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/current/cluster-nodes-shutdown.html#_rolling_restart_of_nodes_full_cluster_restart

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Le 18 févr. 2015 à 16:37, Jan-Erik Westlund je.westlund@gmail.com a écrit :

Thanks David !

All my "Recovery Throttling settings" are default in the elasticsearch.yml file.
How do I disable allocation, in a running production environment ?
Do I need to disable allocation first, restart each node / daemon, and after rename the nodes ?

Or maybe it would be better to down the ES cluster (all 3 nodes) during a maintenance windows, change all names, and then restart the ES cluster nodes again ?

//Jan-Erik

Den onsdag 18 februari 2015 kl. 16:18:42 UTC+1 skrev David Pilato:
Yes. It’s safe.
You can do it one at a time.

If you already have data around and don’t want your shards moving during this, you should disable allocation.

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Le 18 févr. 2015 à 16:14, Jan-Erik Westlund <je.we...@gmail.com <javascript:>> a écrit :

Hi !

Is it safe to change the node names of my 3 nodes in an existing elasticsearch 1.4.0 cluster ?

The reason is to get rid of the random names like: Elizabeth "Betsy" Braddock, Franz Kafka, etc...

Is it just to set the node.name http://node.name/: "server name" in elasticsearch.yml and then restart the daemon ?
Do I do it one node at the time, or do I need down the cluster and then change all node names, and then bring up the cluster again ?

//Jan-Erik

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Hi again !

Thanks for Rolling restart info, that was really helpful.
But since the "elasticsearch.yml" file is managed by Puppet, all the
nodenames will change pretty much at the same time !
So in my case it would be best to shutdown the ES daemon on all nodes
first, apply the Puppet changes and then start the ES cluster again...
Is it safe to do so ?

//Jan-Erik

Den onsdag 18 februari 2015 kl. 16:44:35 UTC+1 skrev David Pilato:

Have a look at
Elasticsearch Platform — Find real-time answers at scale | Elastic

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Le 18 févr. 2015 à 16:37, Jan-Erik Westlund <je.we...@gmail.com
<javascript:>> a écrit :

Thanks David !

All my "Recovery Throttling settings" are default in the
elasticsearch.yml file.
How do I disable allocation, in a running production environment ?
Do I need to disable allocation first, restart each node / daemon, and
after rename the nodes ?

Or maybe it would be better to down the ES cluster (all 3 nodes) during a
maintenance windows, change all names, and then restart the ES cluster
nodes again ?

//Jan-Erik

Den onsdag 18 februari 2015 kl. 16:18:42 UTC+1 skrev David Pilato:

Yes. It’s safe.
You can do it one at a time.

If you already have data around and don’t want your shards moving during
this, you should disable allocation.

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Le 18 févr. 2015 à 16:14, Jan-Erik Westlund je.we...@gmail.com a écrit
:

Hi !

Is it safe to change the node names of my 3 nodes in an existing
elasticsearch 1.4.0 cluster ?

The reason is to get rid of the random names like: Elizabeth "Betsy"
Braddock, Franz Kafka, etc...

Is it just to set the node.name: "server name" in elasticsearch.yml and
then restart the daemon ?
Do I do it one node at the time, or do I need down the cluster and then
change all node names, and then bring up the cluster again ?

//Jan-Erik

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You can change safely elasticsearch.yml file while elasticsearch is running.
This file is only loaded when elasticsearch starts.

David

Le 19 févr. 2015 à 07:33, Jan-Erik Westlund je.westlund@gmail.com a écrit :

Hi again !

Thanks for Rolling restart info, that was really helpful.
But since the "elasticsearch.yml" file is managed by Puppet, all the nodenames will change pretty much at the same time !
So in my case it would be best to shutdown the ES daemon on all nodes first, apply the Puppet changes and then start the ES cluster again...
Is it safe to do so ?

//Jan-Erik

Den onsdag 18 februari 2015 kl. 16:44:35 UTC+1 skrev David Pilato:
Have a look at Elasticsearch Platform — Find real-time answers at scale | Elastic

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Le 18 févr. 2015 à 16:37, Jan-Erik Westlund je.we...@gmail.com a écrit :

Thanks David !

All my "Recovery Throttling settings" are default in the elasticsearch.yml file.
How do I disable allocation, in a running production environment ?
Do I need to disable allocation first, restart each node / daemon, and after rename the nodes ?

Or maybe it would be better to down the ES cluster (all 3 nodes) during a maintenance windows, change all names, and then restart the ES cluster nodes again ?

//Jan-Erik

Den onsdag 18 februari 2015 kl. 16:18:42 UTC+1 skrev David Pilato:
Yes. It’s safe.
You can do it one at a time.

If you already have data around and don’t want your shards moving during this, you should disable allocation.

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Le 18 févr. 2015 à 16:14, Jan-Erik Westlund je.we...@gmail.com a écrit :

Hi !

Is it safe to change the node names of my 3 nodes in an existing elasticsearch 1.4.0 cluster ?

The reason is to get rid of the random names like: Elizabeth "Betsy" Braddock, Franz Kafka, etc...

Is it just to set the node.name: "server name" in elasticsearch.yml and then restart the daemon ?
Do I do it one node at the time, or do I need down the cluster and then change all node names, and then bring up the cluster again ?

//Jan-Erik

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I understand that, but is it safe to change all the nodenames and restart all the nodes at the same time ?

Skickat från min iPhone 6.

19 feb 2015 kl. 07:47 skrev David Pilato david@pilato.fr:

You can change safely elasticsearch.yml file while elasticsearch is running.
This file is only loaded when elasticsearch starts.

David

Le 19 févr. 2015 à 07:33, Jan-Erik Westlund je.westlund@gmail.com a écrit :

Hi again !

Thanks for Rolling restart info, that was really helpful.
But since the "elasticsearch.yml" file is managed by Puppet, all the nodenames will change pretty much at the same time !
So in my case it would be best to shutdown the ES daemon on all nodes first, apply the Puppet changes and then start the ES cluster again...
Is it safe to do so ?

//Jan-Erik

Den onsdag 18 februari 2015 kl. 16:44:35 UTC+1 skrev David Pilato:
Have a look at Elasticsearch Platform — Find real-time answers at scale | Elastic

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Le 18 févr. 2015 à 16:37, Jan-Erik Westlund je.we...@gmail.com a écrit :

Thanks David !

All my "Recovery Throttling settings" are default in the elasticsearch.yml file.
How do I disable allocation, in a running production environment ?
Do I need to disable allocation first, restart each node / daemon, and after rename the nodes ?

Or maybe it would be better to down the ES cluster (all 3 nodes) during a maintenance windows, change all names, and then restart the ES cluster nodes again ?

//Jan-Erik

Den onsdag 18 februari 2015 kl. 16:18:42 UTC+1 skrev David Pilato:
Yes. It’s safe.
You can do it one at a time.

If you already have data around and don’t want your shards moving during this, you should disable allocation.

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Le 18 févr. 2015 à 16:14, Jan-Erik Westlund je.we...@gmail.com a écrit :

Hi !

Is it safe to change the node names of my 3 nodes in an existing elasticsearch 1.4.0 cluster ?

The reason is to get rid of the random names like: Elizabeth "Betsy" Braddock, Franz Kafka, etc...

Is it just to set the node.name: "server name" in elasticsearch.yml and then restart the daemon ?
Do I do it one node at the time, or do I need down the cluster and then change all node names, and then bring up the cluster again ?

//Jan-Erik

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You should define this in that case: Elasticsearch Platform — Find real-time answers at scale | Elastic

But it's not anymore a rolling upgrade, right? Your service will be down for some seconds/minutes I guess.

David

Le 19 févr. 2015 à 07:52, Jan-Erik Westlund je.westlund@gmail.com a écrit :

I understand that, but is it safe to change all the nodenames and restart all the nodes at the same time ?

Skickat från min iPhone 6.

19 feb 2015 kl. 07:47 skrev David Pilato david@pilato.fr:

You can change safely elasticsearch.yml file while elasticsearch is running.
This file is only loaded when elasticsearch starts.

David

Le 19 févr. 2015 à 07:33, Jan-Erik Westlund je.westlund@gmail.com a écrit :

Hi again !

Thanks for Rolling restart info, that was really helpful.
But since the "elasticsearch.yml" file is managed by Puppet, all the nodenames will change pretty much at the same time !
So in my case it would be best to shutdown the ES daemon on all nodes first, apply the Puppet changes and then start the ES cluster again...
Is it safe to do so ?

//Jan-Erik

Den onsdag 18 februari 2015 kl. 16:44:35 UTC+1 skrev David Pilato:
Have a look at Elasticsearch Platform — Find real-time answers at scale | Elastic

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Le 18 févr. 2015 à 16:37, Jan-Erik Westlund je.we...@gmail.com a écrit :

Thanks David !

All my "Recovery Throttling settings" are default in the elasticsearch.yml file.
How do I disable allocation, in a running production environment ?
Do I need to disable allocation first, restart each node / daemon, and after rename the nodes ?

Or maybe it would be better to down the ES cluster (all 3 nodes) during a maintenance windows, change all names, and then restart the ES cluster nodes again ?

//Jan-Erik

Den onsdag 18 februari 2015 kl. 16:18:42 UTC+1 skrev David Pilato:
Yes. It’s safe.
You can do it one at a time.

If you already have data around and don’t want your shards moving during this, you should disable allocation.

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Le 18 févr. 2015 à 16:14, Jan-Erik Westlund je.we...@gmail.com a écrit :

Hi !

Is it safe to change the node names of my 3 nodes in an existing elasticsearch 1.4.0 cluster ?

The reason is to get rid of the random names like: Elizabeth "Betsy" Braddock, Franz Kafka, etc...

Is it just to set the node.name: "server name" in elasticsearch.yml and then restart the daemon ?
Do I do it one node at the time, or do I need down the cluster and then change all node names, and then bring up the cluster again ?

//Jan-Erik

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Correct, in that case, it will not be a rolling upgrade :wink: The service
will be down for a few minutes.
Can I then change all the nodenames, and the start the services on all the
nodes with the new names without messing things up ?

2015-02-19 7:58 GMT+01:00 David Pilato david@pilato.fr:

You should define this in that case:
Elasticsearch Platform — Find real-time answers at scale | Elastic

But it's not anymore a rolling upgrade, right? Your service will be down
for some seconds/minutes I guess.

David

Le 19 févr. 2015 à 07:52, Jan-Erik Westlund je.westlund@gmail.com a
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I understand that, but is it safe to change all the nodenames and restart
all the nodes at the same time ?

Skickat från min iPhone 6.

19 feb 2015 kl. 07:47 skrev David Pilato david@pilato.fr:

You can change safely elasticsearch.yml file while elasticsearch is
running.
This file is only loaded when elasticsearch starts.

David

Le 19 févr. 2015 à 07:33, Jan-Erik Westlund je.westlund@gmail.com a
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Hi again !

Thanks for Rolling restart info, that was really helpful.
But since the "elasticsearch.yml" file is managed by Puppet, all the
nodenames will change pretty much at the same time !
So in my case it would be best to shutdown the ES daemon on all nodes
first, apply the Puppet changes and then start the ES cluster again...
Is it safe to do so ?

//Jan-Erik

Den onsdag 18 februari 2015 kl. 16:44:35 UTC+1 skrev David Pilato:

Have a look at Elasticsearch Platform — Find real-time answers at scale | Elastic
reference/current/cluster-nodes-shutdown.html#rolling
restart_of_nodes_full_cluster_restart

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Le 18 févr. 2015 à 16:37, Jan-Erik Westlund je.we...@gmail.com a écrit
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Thanks David !

All my "Recovery Throttling settings" are default in the
elasticsearch.yml file.
How do I disable allocation, in a running production environment ?
Do I need to disable allocation first, restart each node / daemon, and
after rename the nodes ?

Or maybe it would be better to down the ES cluster (all 3 nodes) during a
maintenance windows, change all names, and then restart the ES cluster
nodes again ?

//Jan-Erik

Den onsdag 18 februari 2015 kl. 16:18:42 UTC+1 skrev David Pilato:

Yes. It’s safe.
You can do it one at a time.

If you already have data around and don’t want your shards moving during
this, you should disable allocation.

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Hi !

Is it safe to change the node names of my 3 nodes in an existing
elasticsearch 1.4.0 cluster ?

The reason is to get rid of the random names like: Elizabeth "Betsy"
Braddock, Franz Kafka, etc...

Is it just to set the node.name: "server name" in elasticsearch.yml and
then restart the daemon ?
Do I do it one node at the time, or do I need down the cluster and then
change all node names, and then bring up the cluster again ?

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Yes.

David

Le 19 févr. 2015 à 08:56, Jan-Erik Westlund je.westlund@gmail.com a écrit :

Correct, in that case, it will not be a rolling upgrade :wink: The service will be down for a few minutes.
Can I then change all the nodenames, and the start the services on all the nodes with the new names without messing things up ?

2015-02-19 7:58 GMT+01:00 David Pilato david@pilato.fr:

You should define this in that case: Elasticsearch Platform — Find real-time answers at scale | Elastic

But it's not anymore a rolling upgrade, right? Your service will be down for some seconds/minutes I guess.

David

Le 19 févr. 2015 à 07:52, Jan-Erik Westlund je.westlund@gmail.com a écrit :

I understand that, but is it safe to change all the nodenames and restart all the nodes at the same time ?

Skickat från min iPhone 6.

19 feb 2015 kl. 07:47 skrev David Pilato david@pilato.fr:

You can change safely elasticsearch.yml file while elasticsearch is running.
This file is only loaded when elasticsearch starts.

David

Le 19 févr. 2015 à 07:33, Jan-Erik Westlund je.westlund@gmail.com a écrit :

Hi again !

Thanks for Rolling restart info, that was really helpful.
But since the "elasticsearch.yml" file is managed by Puppet, all the nodenames will change pretty much at the same time !
So in my case it would be best to shutdown the ES daemon on all nodes first, apply the Puppet changes and then start the ES cluster again...
Is it safe to do so ?

//Jan-Erik

Den onsdag 18 februari 2015 kl. 16:44:35 UTC+1 skrev David Pilato:
Have a look at Elasticsearch Platform — Find real-time answers at scale | Elastic

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Le 18 févr. 2015 à 16:37, Jan-Erik Westlund je.we...@gmail.com a écrit :

Thanks David !

All my "Recovery Throttling settings" are default in the elasticsearch.yml file.
How do I disable allocation, in a running production environment ?
Do I need to disable allocation first, restart each node / daemon, and after rename the nodes ?

Or maybe it would be better to down the ES cluster (all 3 nodes) during a maintenance windows, change all names, and then restart the ES cluster nodes again ?

//Jan-Erik

Den onsdag 18 februari 2015 kl. 16:18:42 UTC+1 skrev David Pilato:
Yes. It’s safe.
You can do it one at a time.

If you already have data around and don’t want your shards moving during this, you should disable allocation.

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Le 18 févr. 2015 à 16:14, Jan-Erik Westlund je.we...@gmail.com a écrit :

Hi !

Is it safe to change the node names of my 3 nodes in an existing elasticsearch 1.4.0 cluster ?

The reason is to get rid of the random names like: Elizabeth "Betsy" Braddock, Franz Kafka, etc...

Is it just to set the node.name: "server name" in elasticsearch.yml and then restart the daemon ?
Do I do it one node at the time, or do I need down the cluster and then change all node names, and then bring up the cluster again ?

//Jan-Erik

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Ok, thanks again.

2015-02-19 9:06 GMT+01:00 David Pilato david@pilato.fr:

Yes.

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Le 19 févr. 2015 à 08:56, Jan-Erik Westlund je.westlund@gmail.com a
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Correct, in that case, it will not be a rolling upgrade :wink: The service
will be down for a few minutes.
Can I then change all the nodenames, and the start the services on all the
nodes with the new names without messing things up ?

2015-02-19 7:58 GMT+01:00 David Pilato david@pilato.fr:

You should define this in that case:
Elasticsearch Platform — Find real-time answers at scale | Elastic

But it's not anymore a rolling upgrade, right? Your service will be down
for some seconds/minutes I guess.

David

Le 19 févr. 2015 à 07:52, Jan-Erik Westlund je.westlund@gmail.com a
écrit :

I understand that, but is it safe to change all the nodenames and restart
all the nodes at the same time ?

Skickat från min iPhone 6.

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You can change safely elasticsearch.yml file while elasticsearch is
running.
This file is only loaded when elasticsearch starts.

David

Le 19 févr. 2015 à 07:33, Jan-Erik Westlund je.westlund@gmail.com a
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Hi again !

Thanks for Rolling restart info, that was really helpful.
But since the "elasticsearch.yml" file is managed by Puppet, all the
nodenames will change pretty much at the same time !
So in my case it would be best to shutdown the ES daemon on all nodes
first, apply the Puppet changes and then start the ES cluster again...
Is it safe to do so ?

//Jan-Erik

Den onsdag 18 februari 2015 kl. 16:44:35 UTC+1 skrev David Pilato:

Have a look at Elasticsearch Platform — Find real-time answers at scale | Elastic
reference/current/cluster-nodes-shutdown.html#rolling
restart_of_nodes_full_cluster_restart

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Le 18 févr. 2015 à 16:37, Jan-Erik Westlund je.we...@gmail.com a
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Thanks David !

All my "Recovery Throttling settings" are default in the
elasticsearch.yml file.
How do I disable allocation, in a running production environment ?
Do I need to disable allocation first, restart each node / daemon, and
after rename the nodes ?

Or maybe it would be better to down the ES cluster (all 3 nodes) during
a maintenance windows, change all names, and then restart the ES cluster
nodes again ?

//Jan-Erik

Den onsdag 18 februari 2015 kl. 16:18:42 UTC+1 skrev David Pilato:

Yes. It’s safe.
You can do it one at a time.

If you already have data around and don’t want your shards moving
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Hi !

Is it safe to change the node names of my 3 nodes in an existing
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The reason is to get rid of the random names like: Elizabeth "Betsy"
Braddock, Franz Kafka, etc...

Is it just to set the node.name: "server name" in elasticsearch.yml
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Do I do it one node at the time, or do I need down the cluster and then
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